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At Brookline Community Center since 1941. Then they changed the name. They called it Temple Emeth. And I davenned there on the High Holy Days in 1941. And they didn’t have a building, but there used to be a Temple Sinai in Boston; there still is. A reform Sinai.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=27.0,66.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: On Sewall Avenue.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: And they had a place on Beacon Street, but the place wasn’t big enough, so they hired Mae Mosher for the High Holy Days-.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Really?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: … the first time.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Actually, I didn’t know that.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: And Mae Mosher was already in the works, you know. They were…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=66.0,84.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: They were building at that time.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: And I davenned there in 1941, with a rabbi by the name Goldberg who is a, who is a gemara teacher now in, in the, in Yerushalayim. And he was also incomprehensible Yiddish, and we had about 60 or 70 people. And they continued in Brookline Community Center in Brookline. They brought, after they got through with that holiday, see, they bought a building who used to be a horse — they used to rent horses there…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=84.0,123.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: At stables, yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yeah. It was like a farm – like a farm thing. And they start davenning there, in, during ’42. In 1942, Uncle Sam couldn’t win the war without me, and they hired, they, they drafted me. So I was at Camp Edwards at the time. And I get a call from a fellow by the name Eddie Wein, who is the Chairman of INAUDIBLE Committee. He said — my wife got the call. I was already in the Army. So she called me up, she says, “Mr. Wein called because last year, you davenned for the holidays. Can you come back?” So she said, “He’s in the Army.” He doesn’t know. He has to ask the chaplain, and so forth. But finally, the Chief Chaplain gave me a pass. And I went to daven again for the High Holy Days, but this time, in South Brookline. And they still called it South Brookline. And for a few years, he hired a rabbi by the name David Rubin who was rabbi for about four or five years. And they changed their name to Temple Emeth. But I was only davening there for the Friday nights and Shabbas. And again in ’43, I was still in the Army, and I was in my uniform, and I got orders from the Chaplain not to take off my uniform, but put a tallis on right on top of the uniform. \u003cbr\u003eSo then, from then on, Rabbi Nelson came. He had a real organization going on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=123.0,237.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: Very fine rabbi.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Rabbi Schubel, who was in your synagogue…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: …said, “The rabbi is taking away all my members.” \u003cbr\u003eBecause a lot of members started to move from…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: From Brighton to…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: …from Brighton to, yeah, to Brookline, to Newtown. And that’s how this temple grew. And from then on, it’s only 56 years that I am the hazzan there, full-time, they give me a check every week.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=237.0,263.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: And you’re still hazzan there now?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yeah. Still the hazzan.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: And you’re going to be –\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Full-time, and I’m still teaching some bar mitzvahs. And I had about 50, 60 a week. Bar mitzvahs for the last 50 years. In the last five or six years, the Hebrew school took overboard the…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=263.0,282.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: The function of education.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yes, and so forth. But I still go in full-time.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: You’re going to be honored next week, at the Jewish Theological Seminary, aren’t you?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Sure. I told you the thing.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Yeah. You’re going to be given an honorary Doctor of Sacred Music degree.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yeah. That was something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=282.0,303.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: Yeah, now, uh, tell me — you came to the United States, obviously, a long time before our friend Hazzan Shelkan. You came in the 19…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yes. He was there — I, in fact, I sang with him in the choir with Mordechai Rabinovich. He was an alto, and I was already a tenor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=303.0,323.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: Where was that?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: In Lebow, in the same synagogue that he was singing.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: So you were born in Lebow?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: I was born in Lebow in 1901.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Lebow was in Latvia.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: In Latvia. And we had a big synagogue, and the cantor was a pupil of Hazzan Weintraub.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=323.0,339.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: Wait a minute.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Rabinovich.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: I want to go back a second. What year were you born?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: I was born 1901. 1901, and I, when I was five-and-a-half years old…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Are you telling me — how old are you now?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Fifty-six — uh, 56? Ninety-six.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: You’re telling me that you’re 96 years old now?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: That’s right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Did you know that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=339.0,359.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA: He doesn’t hide his age. You noticed that.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: What do I — I don’t hide my age.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: It’s something to be very proud of.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: I have…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: I wouldn’t believe it.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Well, I can’t deny it.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: He sings, he sings better than a youngster of 20, but…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: And you’re still functioning as a hazzan.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: As a full-time hazzan! I get a check every week!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=359.0,379.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: Because there’s some full-time hazzanim who don’t get a check every week.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: No, I do. I go to work. In fact, they were so nice to me the last holidays, they just sent me to Florida for three weeks. And guess what? They paid for it. They said it was so good, so good, that the Kol Nidre, zech bech ein ge geden (I mean maybe but I don’t speak Yiddish), you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=379.0,403.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA: In Lebow, did you sing in the choir as a child?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: I sang in the choir with Shelkan. I was a choir boy.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Did you sing in the choir also, did you sing as an alto?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: No, I was a soprano. I was a soprano.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: You sang as a soprano.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Do you remember who the conductor was?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Oh, you wouldn’t — Nemzer.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Now, in Lebow, this kind of a shul…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=403.0,422.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: It was the greatest synagogue in Latvia. Except Riga was bigger.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: How far was it from Riga?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Oh, like by train, at that time, overnight, five hours. Five, six hours.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: So, in Lebow, would you say, would you call this a Chor Shul?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Chor Shul.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=422.0,436.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: A real Chor Shul.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: A real Chor Shul, men and women did not sit together. It was a real Orthodox, and the greatest hazzan was Mordechai Rabinovich, who was a pupil, like I said, of what’s-his-name…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Weintraub.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Weintraub, yeah. INAUDBILE. 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One of the greatest ba'al nusaḥ.” He used to sing To Come To Shabbos, Elirozer, the Elirozer (I’m not sure what this song is called and I’m missing a word), he used to sing it right with them. Terrific.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=455.0,483.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: You said he used to sing To Come To Shabbos.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yeah, but how is it go now…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: With choir?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yes. With…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: What kind of compositions for To Come To Shabbos?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Real. A little Lewandowski, some of Zultser, and Rakowski…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: In other, in other words…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: To Come To Shabbos I don’t remember whose number it was.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: In other words, you mentioned you sang the Rakowski, you sang — Nowakowski?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=483.0,504.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: Yes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: They knew about Nowakowski in Lebow?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Oh, we knew about everybody, like Vienna. Exactly the same. Sulzer, everybody.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: All right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: We used to do the same thing what Vienna used to do, and Riga used to do. St. Petersburg, or Russia. We all used to do the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: What I’m interested to confirm is that Lewandowski and Sulzer and things like it was done in Lebow, not only in Germany.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=504.0,527.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKANDLER:\u003c/strong\u003e No, not only in Germany. Because the greatest, some of the Orthodox synagogues, took it over. Even though, even though they were Orthodox. But who knew Orthodox, Conservative or Reformed? Nobody cared. So he went to a different shul — so what? But Orthodoxy was nothing like it. Nothing — and Hadar! That’s all — what did it matter? Who, who knew about Reform?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=527.0,553.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: Did you ever sing things like Zeidel Rovner?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Also, you also sang Zeidel Rovner?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yes, I sang, all the, all the, all the most important hazzanim with the ba'al niz’coth. We used to mix everyone, with this and that. And how, how was… how many good cantors came out. There was a, a Bamanist, there was a hazzan…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Simon, Simon Bamanist.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Simon, he was a pupil.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=553.0,578.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: He lives in…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He lives in California.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: …in Rancho Bernard or something like that.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: I think Michaelson also came…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=578.0,585.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKANDLER:\u003c/strong\u003e Michael — oh, the greatest. He was — and my father was a member with his shul. But he had his own something minyan. You know, everyone to his trade. And Michaelson told me, a few years ago, when we went to the convention in New York, “Also, I used to go to your father’s shul,” he said. “I used to daven there as a kid.” And he became one of the greatest hazzanim in California. You knew Shir…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=585.0,612.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: …was related. He’s his pupil. He was his pupil.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: And Michaelson was an extremely…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He really taught him a lot. 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No, in 1920, I went to Berlin, Germany, and I sang for a Hazzan — I don’t even remember his first name — Klein, in Oranienburger Strasse Synagogue.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Now, Oranienburger Strasse Synagogue was the synagogue of Lewandowski, of course.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=630.0,653.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: But he was a choir leader there, and who, what was his name?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Zepke was the organist.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Zepke was the organist.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Arthur Zepke.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: And Klein was the hazzan. But Zepke lived to see Shelkan. He, Zepke played for Shelkan when he sang once at Oranienburger Strasse, on I don’t know what street. He sang with Rabbi Schubel, the new rabbi. 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During the first World War. I used to work for him, and worked there and lay out the costumes, you know, and learn all the German, the German theater numbers and everything. And then I said, “When I go to Berlin, I’ll go to the grossezt shul, the biggest synagogue,” what’s his name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=692.0,714.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: Oranienburger.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Not now. In the biggest theater what was in Berlin. Do you remember the name?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Oh, the theater…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: A Jewish man was the leader. I forgot, he was a, he thought they wouldn’t touch him, but they touched him. So I thought they were naroys happen. No, I knew how to do things, I said. And then I thought of…. So I went to Berlin, and I had to go to work, and I went to work five, five…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=714.0,739.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: Stories.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: …stories up to the place where I used to work every day. And I worked there, I was there for, from 1920 to ’23. And I stayed there. 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If you didn’t show a paper that you are a student, you couldn’t live there anymore. They… Every year, they used to check you up and they used to say, “Your time is up. Your time is up.” So I used to go to renew my papers every year, and in 1923, I had an uncle here in Boston, Uncle Liebowitz. And he took me over here, and right away, I, I got a job, and I used to pay three dollars for a lesson. I, I didn’t care about anything else. 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She was taught at the Boston Conservatory.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=811.0,820.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKANDLER:\u003c/strong\u003e So she taught me how to sing Una Fortiva Lagrima. And it went away, oh, it must have been about six or seven years I studied with her. And Fabian Koussevitzky came to Boston to conduct the Metropolitan Theater Orchestra. So he helped kids come over. He used to be good to kids. He had a hundred musicians that he broke in, and singers. So he said, “Do you know how to sing Una Fortiva?” I says, “Yes, I happen to be studying that.” And I started to sing una fortiva lagrima…, and so forth, and so forth. So he gave me a job for twenty-five dollars a week. To sing myself. But four times he gave it to me. But they had another fellow, of the name White. He also knew that. So he used to substitute. If I wasn’t there, he was there. And I sang that, and I still used to study with Madam, with Madam Pollitor. And the time went by, and they, the job wasn’t steady, because there were a couple of weeks they used to take a group of like five or ten or 12 kids and somebody got a solo. But there used to be twenty-five, thirty dollars each. In those days, it was a lot of money. And I still kept on, kept on studying, and then I got a hold of Rabbi Fuchs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=820.0,913.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: Rabbi Fuchs. Certainly.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: And he says, “Gee, what did you do, what are you doing here?” So he got me a job in Lawrence, before I went to, to South Brookline. And I davenned there, ’39 and ’40. 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Fisher.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: All here in Boston?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: All in Boston.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: On Fisher’s show.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=938.0,958.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: I still have a record! You’ll hear the record.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Who was Fisher?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Fisher was a fellow who was, was Jewish Hour, like in New York they have somebody there.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Morrison and Schiff.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Morrison and Schiff. They used to sing, it’s Morrison and Schiff, it’s Morrison and Schiff…. And we used to sing this as an encore, as a introduction. And he used to, at the time, Manischewitz matzo, Rokeach’s matzo. And everything in Boston, Sunday from 12 to 1:30. Wednesday night, rehearsal for two hours. And from that, he used to give us the jobs. Bitsa Baker…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=958.0,994.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: Oh yes. Baker…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Ray Miller.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Frank Hoogan.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Frank. Good old Frank.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: And a lot of these local singers.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Who was the accompanist, the pianist?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: All different ones. We had Siegel.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Josh Siegel.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: And yeah, Josh Siegel. And Harry Goodman. And oh, Lewandowski — Rozovsky. Oh, he was terrific. He played, he used to write plays. All the Jewish theaters…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=994.0,1022.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: His brother was a composer too. His brother…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yeah, that’s right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: I heard some records with Leon Gould.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: That’s right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: He also…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Leon Gould was also in that, he also used to sing on the radio. Leon Gould, you know, he was a hazzan then.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: And he’s Martin Gould’s father.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Uh-huh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1022.0,1038.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: He was there at Dafiya Shirin, and then eventually, eventually he went to Hillel.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: And from then on, they kept me, and they said that I had 50 or 60 bar mitzvahs, I was busy from 3 to 6 every day, every day. And Friday night. Friday night, two bar mitzvahs. Bat mitzvahs. Shabbos two bar mitzvahs. And who was preparing ‘em all? This guy here. Fifty and 60 alone. Alone!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1038.0,1066.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: That’s a lot of work.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: What I did was a lot of work, during the ‘40s and ‘50s and ‘60s.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: When you, in the ‘30s when you did all this work in Yiddish theater on the radio — most of it was Yiddish. Theatrical songs, I imagine.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Some hazzanas?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yeah. Some hazzanas, too.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: But a lot of Yiddish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1066.0,1081.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: You know what I — else I used to do, while I was, before I had the job in South Brookline? I’ll tell you, so you asked me. I used to go to New York and see Cantor Lipitz.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Louis Lipitz.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1081.0,1098.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKANDLER:\u003c/strong\u003e Every Monday morning. Why Monday? Because Friday and Saturday, I used to daven in my wife’s shul. She wasn’t, we weren’t married then. In Temple Ashkenaz. I used to daven there, and take those numbers and break ‘em in, in shul. And sing on the train, I used to rehearse it. And for two-and-a-half, two years, I used to work during the, during the week — study, I mean, in New York — and weekends, I used to come here and sing on the radio. Because I had to be here. And it was three-and-a-half dollars to go by bus to New York in 1934. It was only three-and-a-half dollars.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1098.0,1147.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA: So you lived a whole week in New York?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: I lived with my aunt, on Bishop. Oh, she was so good to me.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Who else was studying with Lipitz at the same time? Do you know?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Eh, Hammerman.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Hammerman.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Hammerman and his brother. Yeah, Mickey. Yiddish, he used to study with the same…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1147.0,1164.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: Lipitz had a, he called it a school, didn’t he?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yeah. He, Yasinowski.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Cantorial Conservatory…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Cantorial Conservatory of America.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: So tell me about that. That was in his home, though, actually.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: No.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: No?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He, it was at Metropolitan Opera House building.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: He rented a studio?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Ah, yes. And he had the school for about three, four years. I used to go there and Hammerman went there, the brother went there, and a few other cantors that I know, used to study there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1164.0,1187.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: What did the school mean? In other words, he had, he rented…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He had, he called it the Cantors Conservatory of America.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: And what did he…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: We used to study niz’coach.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: That’s all?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: That’s all.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: With him?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: With him.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: He didn’t have any other teachers there?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: No, he had a voice teacher. 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Everything, goodness…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: But was he teaching you to, to daven without the music, to improvise and make your own…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1224.0,1241.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: Yeah, sure. At the beginning, I didn’t have any organ. I didn’t have the organ even with me. I just followed this. When I used to try out in Dorchester or Roxbury, in different synagogues, I used to use the book. Why not? But later on, you don’t need it. 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Mostly his.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Each one of these people who had schools, so-called, whether it was Joshua Lind-\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: You know the name Joshua Lind?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Oh, sure.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Or Weizer, Weizer.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: And Jacob Schwartz had a school.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: And Jacob Schwartz is from…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: You know Weizer?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Weizer, oh, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1261.0,1279.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: It seems, most of the time, didn’t they just… really, they were just coaching you on their notes?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Most of the time. Sometimes, he gave a, if you wanted to sing, if you suggested Lewandowski, he will do it with you.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: No, but I mean, did he teach you how to, to be a ba'al t'filla, without any particular compositions? How to…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1279.0,1298.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: …where you change the nusaḥ, how you do…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Oh, yeah, sure.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Basic nusaḥ was the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Of course.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Basic, what they called…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Ray Aliloch, L’chu N’ranana he started with the real niz’coach. L’chu n’ranana… Beginning, and then the full afternoon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1298.0,1315.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: You worked in Germany long enough that…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: I was only three years there.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: So you didn’t absorb the German nizrout, did you?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Uh, not really. Not really.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: You weren’t really involved in the German synagogue much, there?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Well, I sang in the choir.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Where? In the choir that…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: In INAUDIBLE, yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: In Hamburg.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: No, Oranienburger Strasse, I used to sing…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1315.0,1330.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: So you did sing in the choir there.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yeah, yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Rosokovsky went to the school.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: There was a hazzan named Kirschner, I believe.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Emmanuel Kirschner?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: No, his brother.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: His brother.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: His brother was in Berlin. And I used to be with him, he used to take me, he had a shul up in Riga, a Reform synagogue. But I used to go to house, and I, I learned some hazzanas from him, too.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: He must have been a much, uh, younger brother.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1330.0,1350.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: Yah. His younger brother there wasn’t mentioned. His brother was in Munich.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: He was in Munich until 1938.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yah. He used to sing the, for a hazzan in Providence, and he had, he used to shtimmech, what’s his name? In Providence?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Hornemmenson?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Hornemser.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Hornemser, yah. He studied.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Jacob Hornemser.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1350.0,1366.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: Yeah, he knew him well. Now, he was — no. He was a pupil of Kirschner in Minsk.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: That’s right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He was a pupil of Pinchik.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Well, no. Kirschner sang in Lewandowski’s choir, actually. 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His first name?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: No, I don’t.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Because you know…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: You know, ‘cause I used to go there to eat.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Because his brother, in other words, Emmanuel Kirschner’s…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1380.0,1400.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: …grandson…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yah?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: …is a, lives now in San Francisco.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Oh, is that so?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Oh, in Berlin I knew the family, and I used to — yah. I used to live not far from them.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: He was a bass. Emmanuel Kirschner was a bass. Or a baritone - bass-baritone — something like that.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: I never heard of him. I never heard of him.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: But the brother was…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1400.0,1419.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: No, he was a, he was a baritone.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Also a baritone.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He was a baritone, yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Alright. Now, um…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He had a synagogue.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: So you were with Lipitz, at Lipitz’ school, and then, uh…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: And then, from Lipitz, I also studied awhile, and guess with whom? With Richard Neumann’s father.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Karl Norman.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Karl, there’s Karl.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He taught me a lot of things. A lot, he knew the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Was that at the Nightingale Street? He was at the Nightingale Street…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1419.0,1440.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: Oh! He was at Nightingale Shul, yes. Even when I was still in Emeth, I used to be with him.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: You’re talking about the Karl Norman who had been in Europe? Where was he, in Prague?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yeah, but he was a hazzan in, he was a hazzan. He had a good job.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: He was in Prague, he was in Vienna, and he was at the Frieden’s temple in Berlin.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yah. But he had a job in an Orthodox synagogue in D.C. Oh… now, that’s too Orthodox. 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Karl is the only one, the only one. \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eAnd the way he spells his name is different.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: I didn’t know that.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Wait a minute. Wait — this is very interesting.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yes, what?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Tell us…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: What? Another Neumann?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Mr., Hazzan Schneider. Tell us about… you were saying something about Neumanns.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1460.0,1483.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: Well, Neumann I was with at the Nightingale Street Shul, Chai Odom.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Here?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Yeah, and I…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Here in Boston?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Yeah, and he had a great many students, ‘cause he was a very fine musician, and a very fine human being, very, with a lot of integrity, and the, and so the, as I heard a good teacher. I went there with Velotsky…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Oh, yeah, Velotsky.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: …who was a choir leader. And I was going to sing…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: The choir leader. Velotsky was.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: …Telea Zlots. So Karl auditioned me as an alto. And…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1483.0,1505.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: But he knew the voice.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: He knew the voice.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He knew voice. He used to sing in Prague in the opera.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Very, very good tenor.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Karl Neumann.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Karl Neumann.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Okay. Now, and so, and you say that Richard Neumann was, is a, an adopted son.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: His adopted son.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: The adopted son. But he, always is…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Great musician, yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Great musician. 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Richard Neumann?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: He was only 70.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He was only 70, that’s right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: He was exactly 70 years old.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He was 70, huh?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: He, well, he had a bad heart condition.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Oh.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: I didn’t know that.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: But he was okay for years, you know?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Oh, yah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Then he went up — it was, so it was all right, you know. And he…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: And Richard was INAUDIBLE? I was surprised.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: He went to, it was Shabbos afternoon. 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That’s right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Right, yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Now, the Neumann that’s on… isn’t there — there’s a recording.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: There’s a Max Neumann. That’s a different…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1545.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: Oh…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: That’s what I’m confusing him with.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Max Neumann was in Frankfurt.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: That’s not Karl. That’s…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: In Frankfurt.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: No, that’s a different…. See, he comes from Russia, from the same city where Braslavksy used to sing.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Where?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Uman.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Uman. Uman.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Uman.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1560.0,1575.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: And he came from, and he knew nusaḥ.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: That wasn’t the real name. Neumann was not his real name.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Neumann. It may…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: He cut it down from another name.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: With Neumann, he changed it. And when he went to, and Braslavsky and Neumann, they knew each other well. And you know, Braslavsky, Klavits’ synagogue — you remember Klavits’ synagogue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1575.0,1594.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: Yes, certainly.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Goldberg used to be the hazzan.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: There was a great hazzan. Great hazzan.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He tried to be a hazzan…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: I know he tried.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: …for, before Goldberg, ‘cause he didn’t have the voice. So everyone, he doesn’t talk about that, but he was a hazzan for a couple of years, or a year or so. 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He came from a family of cantors.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He couldn’t, he couldn’t read music.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: No?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1615.0,1637.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: But he had an ear. When he spoke — hmm! hmm! — you could feel that he has a voice. And in his cho’och that he did in Hungarish, he was a, from Hungary.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: The whole family were cantors, from a generation.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yah, but he was the best.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Yeah, by Adolph, and…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He — what’s his name? — Braslavsky used to say, “He never gives me the key. I give him the key.” And he knew already what he’s going to do, and I tell you, it was something. Shelkan will tell you that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1637.0,1665.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: But Braslavsky was an extremely fine musician and composer.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Who!\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Braslavsky!\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Yeah, Solomon Braslavsky, he wrote - some of his compositions were exquisite.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He would - anybody that picks up, and I sing in the, on one of the records I sing his Lachaynu Vrocha.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: He has two, I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1665.0,1682.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: Yah. But one, this is a High Holy Day Lachayna Vrocha (I don’t know this song and it sounds different every time he says it… Malkeinu Brucha?).\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: He studied with Bruno Walter. He would…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Lachaynu…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Who studied with Bruno Walter?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Solomon Braslavsky.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Here in America or in Vienna?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: No, in Vienna, Vienna. In Vienna.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: In Vienna.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Oh, he was given the title of Professor by the Emperor, you know, at that time.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Yeah, I was going to ask you about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1682.0,1698.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: Brasla - Kwartin was a-\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He was Kwartin’s accompanist on the ship when he went to Europe, when he made records in Europe. He used to travel with him. Braslavsky. He used to travel with him, and he also played for Yossele Rosenblatt, too, I think. 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You know, he was really responsible for hiring him.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Does Braslavsky have any family?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Yes, he has a daughter.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yeah, he had a daughter.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1718.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: Candy, I think her name was.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He has a daughter.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: His cousin was…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSOROTA: Sonya.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Where, where did you learn the, the — not the language, I mean — I’m talking about, asking about Yiddish.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: I learned from my father. He was a ba'al t'filla.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1740.0,1757.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: Ah, okay. Your, your father was a ba'al t'filla?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He was — not for, for money, but he was a ba'al t'filla.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: No, a ba'al t'filla.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: I learned all of the niz’caochs from…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: But that you learned on your own, plus singing in the choirs, and so on.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yah, yah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Now, native language in, your mame l’shun was Yiddish.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yiddish, yah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: How about, did they speak German in the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Oh, yeah. Oh, greatest German.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: And Latvian?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1757.0,1778.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: Hochdeutcsh. And Latvian. Or they call it Hochdeutsch.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Hochdeutsch. High German.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: That’s right. That’s why I, I learned it when I worked for my uncle in the German theater. That’s where I learned all the German. And that’s why I thought I had to go to Germany with the oys kappen, you know. But I spoke German perfectly in school, in cheder. They, they used to call the, besides the cheder and the Talmud Torah, we used to have a school, you know, it’s called the Krone Shul. Krone is a crown, and shul — it was a government, a government school, and that’s where all the kids used to go, besides the cheder. This is like going to high school, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1778.0,1813.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: But you learned German?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Oh, yes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: This is of course before the first World War so-\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yeah, sure. I was in the World War. I wasn’t in World War II, but…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: In World War I.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: …but you couldn’t win the second — in World War I — that they couldn’t win the second one without me.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: World War I you were too young to be in.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yeah, I was 13 years old.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Yeah, in 1914, you were only 13 years old. So, the thing, but it’s true, then, that when you say that in a place like Lebow, which, what was…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Lebow Riga, oh, the greatest…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Educated, educated…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Educated…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: …Jews spoke German as well, is that true?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1813.0,1845.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKANDLER:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, sure. The greatest leaders in Israel, at the beginning of Israel, they were from Riga and from Lebow, from Latvia. Because they were, they’re educated, Dubin — you know, Dubin. Professor Dubin was the greatest. And they were all educated people. And they found a home in Israel, and they went, the greatest newspapers’ writers were…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1845.0,1869.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA: Didn’t Dubnow, the historian, live in Riga?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yes. He died in Riga. The Germans killed him.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: And when you, when you began singing Yiddish theater music, this was though something new.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Because that was…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Now, the theaters, they were, in Lebow, we sing. My father used to sing Yiddish in Ligallah when we were…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: But that’s not the kind of thing you sang on the radio.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: No.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: What kind of thing did you sing here on the radio? In Yiddish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1869.0,1892.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: At one time, I used to sing more theater numbers.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: You mean like Rumshinsky or Herschel…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yah, yah. Rumshinsky, yes yes, and all that. And in Vilna, you know. Vilna… Yiddish or something. And all this kind of music — I sing that. But on, in the last three or four years I was singing it on the radio every Wednesday night. A Jewish hour, called The Yiddish Chor. And I had, I started — how did I get into it? You hear of a teacher with the name Hassi Siegel? Was a Yiddishiste. And she started a Yom HaShoah night. In 1995 or ’94. And I sang a whole row of all this, Brasla - what’s his name’s songs, the great baritone?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1892.0,1950.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: Seda Bilarsky.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Seda Bilarsky’s numbers. Like incomprehensible Yiddish. And the Kiev thing. A row of all these. She made, a whole hour he dedicated to me one night. So I have some of those records. Some of them came out pretty good, but it isn’t a real professional. It’s this fellow, Meyer Davis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1950.0,1977.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: Yeah, I met him.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Who is an American boy, and he wants to know Yiddish. So he said he’ll dedicate his time, and he’s really learning. And did you ever hear him in the beginning, how his Yiddish wasn’t so good? And today, his Yiddish is marvelous. He interviewed a fellow by the name Rabbi Jacobson. And he has interviewed the Rav, the…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=1977.0,2004.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: Soloveitchik?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: No, the Chabbadnik.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Schneerson.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Schneerson. So he was a student when he interviewed him. He and another three or four boys from the Yeshiva, on Shabbos. And they wanted to have this printed, but he wouldn’t — of course, you couldn’t write. So this Jacobson was on the radio last week. Everything was memorized by these three, four boys.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=2004.0,2038.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: Remarkable.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: And they wrote it down. And you should hear some stuff that INAUDIBLE wrote. This Jacobson also happened to be from Riga. His name is, he doesn’t say Jacobson, he calls him Yacobson. You know. This David. And every Wednesday night he puts on some of my records that I have. And he uses a lot of klezmers…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=2038.0,2065.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: And Yacovson was here to give a lecture for…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: That’s right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: …at my shul.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Oh, did he have a lecture?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: He was down in my shul. Rabbi Kulsky’s…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Sure. They were so smart, those kids. And they mem- tried to the whole — how could you memorize a whole Shabbos sermon? But they, they, I mean, someday you’ll have a good hour. You know what’s-his-name, the, he follows the Phil Jacobs…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Oh, the, now, I mean, Netsky is…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=2065.0,2092.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: Yah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: …and Netsky has it now.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Netsky’s taken over.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Hankus Netsky.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Hankus, yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: You know, the klezmer guy.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He’s very popular.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: That’s the guy. 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All the greatest.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Only the greatest.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Don’t you know?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Who are the greatest?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Who are they?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: From Toronto, what’s his name?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Donto.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Donto.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Mizrachi.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: No, Mizrachi’s not one of them.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He’s not singing that night? He’s not giving a program?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: On Wednesday?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Wednesday.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: He’d better not be.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Mizrachi is not.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: He’s got other engagements.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He has another engagement. But you know, four or five good singer, singers are coming. 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He’d get the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: And Miriam Kressyn used to come with him.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: I was going to ask you.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: With her boyfriend, oh!\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Seymour Rechtzeit?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Seymour.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: All the time.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: She grew up in Boston.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: I forgot about that. She’s from Boston — that’s right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yeah, she was born in Boston. She had, in fact, and Sharon — she has a sister named Sharon. And Sharon, she had a…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Wasn’t Molly Picon met Murray the Mistake…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Molly Picon was also from there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=2558.0,2583.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: The, they had The Sultan, they had the theater, the Yiddish theater.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: In Douglaston.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Douglaston Theater. And he used to write a lot for that.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: He was a good writer. But he wrote a volume, Give a Smile, Give a shmechel.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yeah, Give a Shmechel. He wrote a book.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: He had a good sense of humor.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He wrote Give a Shmechel.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: He wrote for the Forvitz too.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Oh, he wrote a lot for the Forvitz.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Give a Schmechel — in, the whole thing is in Yiddish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=2583.0,2607.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: Yah. Everything in Yiddish, sure. And this Jewish Hour, the Davises, everything in Yiddish. But he does a lot in English. This…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Min Kozlovsky.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Minkus.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Well, yes, it’s a mixture.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Yeah, yeah, sure, a mixture.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He hangs a lot, and he has some of his old records.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Good voice, too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=2607.0,2625.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: He had a good voice.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: He actually became a hazzan of INAUDIBLE.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He used to imitate what’s-his-name, after the old — oh, I forget his name. All I know is he imitates him. He’s a great actor.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: An actor or a singer?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Singer. Great singer.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Yeah, you mean a comedian?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=2625.0,2643.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: Yah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: You mean Menashe Shlomick?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: No, no, no. But he’s a singer. He had a voice, too. But he…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Lebedeff? Aaron Lebedeff?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: No. Lebedeff? No. Not him.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: He used to do Romania, Romania. Remember that?\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Oh, yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: That’s Lebedeff that did Romania.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Oh, that’s right — Tucker, Tucker. Lebedeff.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: ‘Cause I used to accompany him.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: INAUDIBLE.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=2643.0,2664.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: What, these theaters you’re describing — was that in a particular, like a Jewish neighborhood?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Oh, well, mostly Jewish people.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: But he would hire John Hancock Hall.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He’d bring — yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: And various people.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He had big shows, big shows. Sunday nights, yeah. Not every week, but three, three shows a month.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Cal Feinman used to play the violin. You remember. You remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=2664.0,2687.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: Oh, yeah. He did a good job. But this is dying out, except if Davis can do something.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: No, but that’s something else. It died out in New York, too. I mean, there’s no, I would say the ‘50s was the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: But the JCC, ‘cause — not the JCC — they’re trying to bring back the Jewish actors from New York to find out if the JCC has a place to do something, they’ll do it. 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Gabe Hochman.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: He had a fine — now Louis Shapiro was the musical director.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yeah, he was their organist.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: He was a dear friend of mine.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He was a great man.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: He composed most of his music for him. Tailored for him.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: And he never stopped smoking cigars.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Yeah, with his cigar and his glass of whiskey.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Never, until the day he died. And when he was already put away — you know, when he was sick — his voice…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: He had one of these fine — the same thing with Josh Goldberg.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=2712.0,2747.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: Oh, Jo-. You know what a teacher said to Joshua Goldberg in Chicago once? “Don’t you dare take voice lessons.”\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: That’s right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: And until the day he died, he had his full voice.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: I accompanied him when he was 84 years of age -\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: You did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=2747.0,2764.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: - at Chai Odom, and the man was like a, like a youngster of 25, 26. Gorgeous voice.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Here… at Kravitz’ Synagogue.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Great until the day…. You know, he died in Florida.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: But he was at Hadrath Israel — I followed him as cantor of Hadrath Israel.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Where?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: In Dorchester, with the Rabbadou.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=2764.0,2781.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: He was- afterwards he was Rabbadou?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: He went to Hadrath Israel.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Oh, they used to have the greatest. They used to have a…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Yeah. And then Avodat Israel.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Pinchik and…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: What about something, the larger, what would you say the largest synagogues — I don’t mean in terms of numbers of people, but the importance of the type of cantorial tradition? I mean, we’ve been talking about Mishkan T’filah, okay…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=2781.0,2801.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: It used to be KI.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: What’s KI?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Kehillat Israel, where Hermann used to be.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: In other cities, there were people who were suppliers of recitatives. So in New York, a hazzan would go up to Rappaport…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: That’s right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: …or go up to Weiser. If you were a hazzan here in Boston, when you were a hazzan and you needed a recitative, what would you do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=2801.0,2819.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: I’ll tell you who used to do that — Hassman.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Hassman.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Hassman, yah, he dove, he wrote a Ki Lecha Tov. I have it on the thing. Good. Ends up in a A natural. And it came out good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=2819.0,2838.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA: What kind of a hazzan was he?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: I recorded it.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: What kind of hazzan was Hassman?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Hassman.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He knew nusaḥ, but he had, no voice.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Let me, you know, this is an interesting…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Odetz Holberg — that’s his father-in-law.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Whose father-in-law?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: You know that old Sim Shalom?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Harlow. Jules Harlow. That’s his father-in-law.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=2838.0,2854.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: He wrote a, well, why did they write a second Sim Shalom?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: I don’t know. There’s too much piece already.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Oh, my good- No, no. It’s like the old one, but diff — not, not different. They have a, a Reform, you know. It looks like a Reform thing. But you know, no synagogue is buying it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=2854.0,2872.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: I don’t use it.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: I don’t use it. My rabbi wouldn’t use it. I would, I’d use it, if I had to…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: I never would use it.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: But Mishkan T’filah uses it in the temple, and in the chapel they use Silverman’s. In the chapel, where they daven during the week…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: They use the Silverman?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=2872.0,2889.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: You know what it says now? It says on the one side, the newest one that’s coming out is even newer. They were working on a new one now. And the one side it says, “Avinu Malkeinu.”\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: On the other side it says, “Our Ancestor…” It doesn’t want-\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: …to say our father.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: …to use the word father, because it’s masculine.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Oh, sure, the mother. 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The shlechte kinder.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: The same thing.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: The shlechte kinder.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: The meshugenah velt.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Rabbonim.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Right? A shlecht.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=2911.0,2928.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: Now, we talked about recitatives, now. You see, my question is this — this is, is this largely an American phenomenon? I mean, in Europe, if a hazzan needed a recitative, did he find, did, say, have to go somebody write for him something?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: No. What did he do?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: In Europe, they didn’t need recitatives.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: They do it- did it themselves!\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Improvised.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: That’s what I wanted to know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=2928.0,2947.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: From Kotkin it says, “Hazzaloin bar zaynu, goz do va do.”\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: So you would agree with me that this is an American phenomenon.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Absolutely. And it’s going to remain like that, because the youngsters that are coming up, especially Weber, you know.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Although, you see, now, the thing is, Lewandowski — Sulzer started it, and Lewandowski wrote plenty of recitatives in the book there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=2947.0,2968.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: Oh, sure.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: And he said, in the book, that he’s doing it for new, younger hazzanim…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Hazzanim.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Hazzanim.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: … who don’t, who wouldn’t be able to do it on their own.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: No.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: But I don’t know that there were — I hate to use the word, but the recitative factories like they’re here.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: A recitative factory in New York.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: The recitatives are not as developed…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=2968.0,2985.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: They’re classic.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: …as the recitatives that are…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: But they’re not meant to show off. They’re meant to, they’re meant to get through the nusaḥ.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: I know, but there are, so many hazzanim used to use an opera thing for a kiddushe. The biggest hazzanim.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=2985.0,2999.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: INADUIBLE. What have you…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: INAUDIBLE was like a naritzhoch. But they did…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Louis Shapiro also used to write old recitatives for the hazzanim.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yeah, he didn’t know nusaḥ.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Louis didn’t?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Ah, no.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Louis came from the Vasilkovsky family.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=2999.0,3016.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: I know, but he didn’t know.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: His father was, his father was …\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He used to, he used to play on my hassonist in the summertime, when Rick Murray used to…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: There’s an important name I want to ask you, if we’re finished — Vasilkovsky wasn’t in Boston, was he?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Vasilkovsky? 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You mean Ruskin?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Yeah, because…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Evelyn’s husband.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Who was in Boston.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Oh, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=3052.0,3067.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: Evelyn Borovsky was my…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: No, not Borovsky.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Not Borovsky.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: That was her name. Evelyn Borovsky Ruskin. Evelyn was my uncle’s fiancée before he passed on. Then he came as a refugee to Boston.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: From Berlin.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Louis Shapiro played the organ for Temple Israel until Ruskin came.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: That’s right. I remember it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=3067.0,3083.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: I remember that. And Ruskin was a fine arranger…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He wrote a book about the, about the top, oh, sure.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Rosowsky — he was a student of Rosowsky’s.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yah. 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I knew Evelyn from-\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: From Boston.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: She used to play at Sinai.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Sinai. She was the main conductor there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=3124.0,3140.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: Sure. She was a good musician.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: But you don’t know anything else about Ruskin.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: They were eventually unknown.\u003cbr\u003e \u003cbr\u003eThey eventually went to Indiana…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Indianapolis.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: That’s right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: And he’s buried in Indianapolis now.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Yeah. That was unfortunate.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: What was the story?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Well, because it was a rather short life, you know, comparatively.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Uh-huh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=3140.0,3159.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: Did you ever hear of Frederick Jagel?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: No.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: He was a tenor at the Metropolitan Opera.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yah. I, he was a, he was teaching at Boston Conservatory.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: He was in, yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: And I was connected with that…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=3159.0,3170.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLEVIN:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, we were, just before we broke, I was asking you about some of the synagogues that had a cantorial history. We mentioned Mishkan T’filah we’ve talking about a lot. What are the other big — you know, in certain cities, there are synagogues that have a tradition of one hazzan, one great hazzan after another.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=3170.0,3191.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKANDLER:\u003c/strong\u003e There was a great hazzan. He wasn’t a great hazzan. Neil Fuchs. But KI was so popular at that time that everybody talked about KI. Everybody should go to daven there on each Shabbos. And then later on, they had Foyer. You remember Hazzan Foyer?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=3191.0,3208.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA: Hazzan Foyer.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: He lives in Jerusalem now.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He was very, I knew him. He was a good hazzan.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Wasn’t he from Vienna?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: He’s from Vienna.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yah. He was a little…. But everybody talked about, they talked about Mishkan T’filah because it was a nice Friday night service.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Beautiful temple.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=3208.0,3223.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: And Glickstein was a great hazzan.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: But there was always, uh…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Glickstein and KI. They were the two… ah!\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: But Mishkan T’filah was always a Conservative synagogue.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: A temple. A temple-temple. An oldel synagogue.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: That’s right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Now, the thing is, what about…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: KI wasn’t.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: It was Orthodox?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=3223.0,3240.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKANDLER:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, it was Orthodox, but towards Conservatism. And Hammerman used to kill himself. He says, “Si,” he says, “you have an organ. They won’t give me an organ.” He says, “How come you have it?” And he was so jealous! Oh! He was so jealous about me having an organ. And he has, he had more people come to daven than in my shul. 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The Russishe shul they used to call it.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: What kind of hazzanim were in the Russishe shul?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: The best.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Pinchik and Pinchik and Pinchik and Pinchik. His…\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Steinberg…\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Pinchik davenned in the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Oh!\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: I think Steinberg was once a yearly hazzan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=3315.0,3332.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: Steinberg! I knew his son. Did you know his son?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: No.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Are we talking about David Moshe Steinberg?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: David Moshe Steinberg.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Oh, Steinberg.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: I knew his son. He used to work for me.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: And Moshele Sircus, I think, davenned in Boston?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Moshe was, yeah, when, he used to go to my shul.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: And what’s his name…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: When would Pinchik have davenned in Boston? 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And in 1939, when, before, just before the War broke out, Koussevitzky came to Boston, to the Russishe Shul. And he gave a concert with hazzanim — but, ooh! After that, he couldn’t go back to Russia, but he did, and he fell into the — that was ’39. The War broke out at the end of ’39, and he remained there already.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=3354.0,3388.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: Who you talking about?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Moshe.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Moshe Koussevitzky. There was a…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Moshe came to the… He was here?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: That shul. I’m talking about that synagogue. It was the greatest. 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Fromm was a first-class composer, and he graduated from a Hoch Shul in Mission. And he was, had his master’s degree, and of course, he was headed for a career as an opera conductor and a composer.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yeah, but as far as nusaḥ is concerned?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=3689.0,3705.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: But then, as far — well, he had aspirations, early aspirations to be a rabbi. His family were very, they were very wealthy. 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But as far as this talk about nusaḥ…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: No, he wasn’t in the, he was in the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: In the field, when it comes to nusaḥ t’filah…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: He really was, I would say he was one of the principal composers of liturgical music for a full…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=3734.0,3753.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: For all American…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: For the American scene.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: We’re recording, we’re recording a piece of Herbert Fromm’s this Sunday in-\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yeah?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Rochester, at Eastman.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Oh, but with Sammy, with Sammy.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Yeah, we’re recording. 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Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yeah, but he, I remember, Worcester, he wrote some things.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Very fine. Hugo was…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Hugo.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Hugo.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Hugo was a fine composer. Really fine.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Oh, yeah. You know, uh…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Did Hugo have a voice?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=3796.0,3814.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: Yeah, he had a voice, too. Hugo had a voice, you know.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: You know that’s… Hugo Chaim Adler, yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: You know Stevie Friedman? He’s in Worcester now?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: No.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Yup, he was at the Emmanuel. Hugo was at the Reform shul.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: You know, Shelkan has a pupil who used to be a…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=3814.0,3831.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: Folk singer.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Folk singer.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: He played the guitar.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: And he was a good musician. Majored in music in New Hampshire. And he decided to be a hazzan. And he never had a teacher but Shelkan. \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eHe was a good hazzan. And Braslavsky said to him, when he started out as a- “You want to make a hazzan out of him?” And do you know, he’s giving a concert in Worcester, all Yiddish. And he never sang a Yiddish song in his life before. And Shelkan is breaking him in, and he - I have to go in March. He lives in Worcester.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=3831.0,3878.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: What’s his name?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Steven Friedman.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Oh, this is Steve Friedman.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: He’s an excellent, Grisha’s an excellent pedagogue. A really excellent teacher.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: And he’s amazing, a good hazzan out of him. 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But a… Grisha -\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Chofetz Chaim, zochtist ziv vo matelum.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Listen, Grisha –\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Grisha.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: - happens to be, really, the dean of teachers of the cantorial art for the…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=3896.0,3910.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKANDLER:\u003c/strong\u003e And Mordechai Rabinovich was a great davenner. Oh. I can’t forget his davenning. When I was five-and-a-half, I started with him. And all my — I had four, I had four brothers. One was younger, and the others were all older. And they all sang in the choir. But then, when I came to Montreal, I have four brothers in Montreal. They all have children now, they died out. He says, “How did you, how did you learn all that? I sang in Rabinovich.” And I, I said, “Did you keep it up?”","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=3910.0,3939.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: That’s it, then.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: “No, I didn’t keep it up.” And I used to say, every bar mitzvah, every hazzanah, maybe 20, 30, in Montreal. I had to leave Temple Emeth. “Oh, the cantor’s gone away again. Cantor’s gone away.”\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Do you remember a Cantor Godinsky at all?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Godinsky?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Yeah?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: No.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Bargot? Do you remember Bargot?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=3939.0,3960.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: Oh, Bargot, he was a great hazzan. He was a… I have a record of his slichas.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: I produced it.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Did you buy that? You produced it?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: I produced it.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Good. A good, good davenner. And he was a real hazzan. But later on, he became, uh, Conservadox.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Conservadox.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Yeah, Emmanuel became, as you know…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Conservadox.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=3960.0,3980.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLEVIN:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, before we, before we conclude, I just want to say something slightly unrelated, I mean, to specific hazzanim. You know the Lapidus family, Lapidus family?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=3980.0,3996.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: Sure, he’s a… \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eHe’s a, she’s a friend of my cousin’s in Brookline, and he, her father used to come to the weddings and take pictures.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: This was his this same word keeps coming up that I do not know (ganioch?) that was, he loved to do that. And Rose, and Sheila, like that. And he was, she was the one that introduced Shelkan, when he got his doctorate. 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Now, he’s like to be the president, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=4022.0,4045.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: He was.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: He wants to be the executive vice president.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Executive vice president.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Oh, well. That’s another story.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Well, they were voting on that, you know.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: And that’s fair enough. That’s fair. They should vote for her. Not for him. I mean, whoever…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: You’ve been active in the Cantor’s Assembly?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yeah, a little bit. Not too much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=4045.0,4060.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: Not too much.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: But I was active. I used to do, I was the first one to go to the Oakley, the first meeting of the Cantors Assembly in 1947, I was there. It was at the Seminary. 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Why? The fifth of February I had to be in Florida. Why? My congregation had a reunion. The fifteenth I had to be in Boston, ‘cause my grandchild got married. The 25th, I have to be on the, my, so I say, hamusha, hamusha torah. Hamusha, hamusha — I do really believe in that. Because it came out so good that at my age, I could live to see my granddaughter, 24 years old, getting married. Sin daleven sein schut se zayn do, at 96. 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I should go there all the, every Shabbos. Why? See, my home — I didn’t give up my home in Brookline. I keep it, but it’s a mile from the shul. So this is only five minutes more. So I go to Franny’s, my other daughter, and Shabbos night, and Shabbos, we have dinner. And she takes off Shabbos so can be with Les, with me. And thank God I have good friends. But the temple is very nice to me. I must say that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=4254.0,4315.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: Well, yasher koach.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: And my rabbi I have to mention. Rabbi Turitz is the greatest. 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Moshe Brezniak.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Yep.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: From Levine…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Morris died.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: And Wednesday, I was still in Florida, and the funeral was Thursday. And he had to make the ma’ariv.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: He did the ma’ariv.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: And they say he was good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=4332.0,4350.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: Oh, so he’s a model…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He wasn’t as good as you, but he was good.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: He’s better. He’s better. He’s a good…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Yeah. He’s a very terrific voice.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Very talented man.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: I think he started out to be a hazzan. After which, he became a rabbi. But he’s a very — there isn’t a rabbi in Boston, I think, that prepares every Shabbos…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=4350.0,4373.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: His sermons. I, I notice he…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Every Shabbos, he has something new to look forward to. And he does. Every Shabbos, he’s off to Mishkan T’filah, and go to other shuls. Fine! Great - the greatest. But they didn’t tell you about the INAUDIBLE, about the portion of the week and he does, too. But to prepare — to prepare such a terrific sermon. And the High Holy Days — oh! He’s…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=4373.0,4397.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SCHNEIDER: He’s a fine writer, and you know, I’ve heard him deliver sermons.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: I’ll let you read and see. Remember? And he is one of yours.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: From the Seminary. Good. I’m glad you have a good, a good working relationship.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=4397.0,4411.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: And his father was a great friend of what’s-his-name? The president of the Seminary.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Schorsch? The president…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: He knew him.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: The president of the Seminary right now. Yeah, yes. Thank you so much. It’s been a pleasure talking to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=4411.0,4426.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KANDLER: Oh, I’m very happy to be here.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: It’s been a pleasure to talking to you. It’s been a pleasure talking to…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Serota? I thank you. My friend…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: I’m happy that you came.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Mr. Levin? Or Professor Levin?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Either one.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSCHNEIDER: Professor.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eKANDLER: Hazzan?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: It’s all okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=4426.0,4440.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772/transcript/24199/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSCHNEIDER:\u003c/strong\u003e Listen. Yasher koach. You did a very good job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39396/file/110772#t=4440.0,4451.51307"}]}]}]}