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I'm also Reverend Morton Freeman when I do weddings, because I am a hazzan and I'm registered in clergy. So my world is divided between cantorial, which is not all year round--basically for the holidays and for...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=15.0,36.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: But up until this point in your life, from the time you began singing, which must have been as a child?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=36.0,41.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Pretty much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=41.0,42.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: You began...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=42.0,42.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Well my father was a wunderkind boy cantor, a child prodigy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=42.0,50.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Where?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=50.0,50.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: From Hungary. Hungary, Romania, you know, Hungarian--Hungary, basically. And he was also a rav. He was rosh hayeshiva and so on. And he had Semikhah in Pressburg, which was a big, well-known institute in Europe. And he was a wonderful musician. He read solfege like we read a book, you know, do, re, mi. And somehow we sang with him, we were a bit of a choir with him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=50.0,76.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Where?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=76.0,76.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: At home. Well, also in shul.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=76.0,79.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: I mean, here in America?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=79.0,80.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Here in America. Yeah, because I was--I came here as a child and I was brought up in America.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=80.0,84.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: And where were you born?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=84.0,85.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: I was born in Hungary. Little town, probably with a good size shul.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=85.0,92.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: But you came to the United States as a child.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=92.0,95.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: As a child. Yeah, about four years of age.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=95.0,97.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: And and you and your father was davening as a hazzan?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=97.0,100.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Yes. 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And then the Mashio [sic] family took over after that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=110.0,124.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: So tell me about the choir experience. You sang...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=124.0,126.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Not much, just at home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=126.0,129.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: You didn't sing in the choir as a boy?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=129.0,130.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: No, not really.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=130.0,131.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: No, you didn't have that experience?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=131.0,131.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: And I didn't sing it until later on, you know, after, in my teens, not...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=131.0,136.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: And so how did you get started with this career of Yiddish songs...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=136.0,143.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Yiddish songs, Israeli, you know. Well, it's sort of...after Yeshiva when I sort of broke away a little bit and I was on my own. I didn't have much guidance in life. You know, I have some influence, my father and part of my family is Hasidic and so on and so forth. But I sort of grew up in a very eclectic kind of experience and I got involved with a group called the American People's Chorus. They recorded \"Ballad for Americans\" with Paul Robeson. 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In the '30s?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=215.0,218.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Well, actually, the '40s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=218.0,220.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: The '40s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=220.0,220.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Yeah, I grew up first.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=220.0,222.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Who conducted the--but that was here in New York?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=222.0,223.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=223.0,224.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Who conducted the American People's Chorus then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=224.0,226.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: I can't think of his name just now. Earl Robinson started it, you know. There was some...right now it's so many years ago. And one of the conductors was Dean Dixon, he was a famous Negro or Black conductor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=226.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: And you sang with the chorus?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=240.0,242.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: I sang with the chorus. I did solos. And then I got--I did the \"Ballad for Americans\" twice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=242.0,248.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Where?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=248.0,249.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Once in Prospect Park, once out in Jersey. And I replaced a singer, Kenneth Spencer, who was a Robeson-type of singer. And then Earl Robinson also wrote \"The Lonesome Train,\" it was about...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=249.0,263.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Lincoln, the Lincoln funeral.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=263.0,264.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Lincoln, and I was a soloist in that too. I didn't record it when I was a soloist in that. And then there's one song that's been dear to me all my life, aside from the Jewish, you know, the Americana part of me. And that's \"The House I Live In.\" True Blue Eyes did it,  but I sang it for many, many years. Earl Robinson wrote the music. I think it was Louis Allen. I'm not sure that he wrote the words, but. And then I fell into the Yiddish movement, I was involved with both sides of fairly liberal movements, Workmen's Circle, and there was a group called...it was a left-wing group. You know, there was a lake in Berkshires called Sylvan Lake. One side was the Workmen's Circle. On the other side was a camp called Lakeland. And the strangest thing, both were involved in Jewish culture and Jewish...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=264.0,326.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: You don't mean Labor Zionist?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=326.0,329.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: No, the Labor Zionists came later.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=329.0,331.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: You mean...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=331.0,334.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: You were involved with the Sholom Alecheim Folk School [sic]?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=334.0,336.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: IWO, it was called. IWO.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=336.0,338.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Levin and Serota: Oh, the International Worker's [inaudible crosstalk].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=338.0,342.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: No, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=342.0,342.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Worker's Organization.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=342.0,342.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Worker's Organization. And the other one is a Wobbly, I don't go back that far. IWW, that was a very American also in its way, you know. And so I sang, I begin--I started to pick up a repertoire of Jewish folk material. And then from there, I progressed on to Unser Camp, I went back to my roots and  Unser Camp I was MC for quite a number of years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=342.0,368.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Now Unser Camp was operated by...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=368.0,369.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Labor Zionist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=369.0,371.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: As Labor Zionists.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=371.0,371.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Yeah. And then I also sang in places like Boiberik, Camp Boiberik which was also involved in--it was called the Sholem Aleichem Folk Institute, it was kind of in between, between those two groups. 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In Fact, in the Farband, we had services.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=385.0,401.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Yeah?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=401.0,401.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Yeah [crosstalk], yeah, it was modern, you know. In fact, Leib Glantz once came there years ago, did a weekend. I have a very--it's very vague in a way, I don't know how I fell into it, but all these were part of my influence--influenced me in my life. And then while I was doing all that...I went into doing High Holy Day work, I was helped, my brothers helped me and others about the Nusach and I took a position for Penn State. Then there was a Hillel and they sponsored me to do the High Holy Day service. And so what can I tell you? That's the...all elements of my singing life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=401.0,464.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: How did you first get involved with Israeli folk music ?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=464.0,468.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: The Israeli folk music. I met Martha Schlamme  years ago. Oh, and I also did a lot of, plenty of mountain [sic] work. I was social director in a place called Harmony Country Club. It was also cultural, too, it was progressive, but cultural, and they used to have ethnic programs too, Spanish music, this and that thing. And they--everything was supposed to be nice, not, no vulgarity and so on. I was social director and I'd found out from other people that there was a wonderful singer by the name of Martha Schlamme. And we needed a girl singer to be my co-host and on for the programs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=468.0,515.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: Now, what year was that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=515.0,516.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: That was back in the '50s. And I found out that she was in some place called [inaudible] or something, and I got in touch and I asked her to come over and she joined our staff and she knew Nahum Nardi, the great...some reason through her, I became involved with the Israel Music Foundation. You know, Oscar Egan [sic].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=516.0,544.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: What was the Israel Music Foundation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=544.0,546.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: It was devoted to Israeli music, not just folk dances, but the other parts. They even did some Israeli people singing from the Israel Opera Company. They also did some...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=546.0,559.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: Art music?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=559.0,560.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Art music, too. But my part was a very--it was the greatest thing. It was...it was involved in doing folk dances in Israel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=560.0,572.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: So you recorded for them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=572.0,573.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: I recorded for them with Martha Schlamme.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=573.0,577.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Together in the same...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=577.0,578.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Together. Individually and...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=578.0,579.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: What was she like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=579.0,583.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: She's a charming--she was a charming refugee, from...well, her people come from Vienna. She was born in Vienna and her people had an Orthodox restaurant. Her name was Haftul [sic] and she married some guy, Schlamme. So naturally she retained that name. They divorced for many years and she retained the name. And we were quite closely involved for a time. I even introduced her to my parents. You know, I just I frisked her away from Hamoni [sic] to some little hotelichl [sic], that's Yiddish way of saying a small hotel, very Orthodox hotel Official Kleinberg's Israel, it was called.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=583.0,628.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Where?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=628.0,628.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: In Woodburn, that area, you know. It was not far from other Orthodox hotels. It was a pioneer [sic] country club that was very orthodox. The Pine View was and Homowack is now. And for a while I thought maybe she'll be my colleague, you know? But I introduced her to my parents and they liked her, but it didn't work. That's life, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=628.0,658.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: But I mean, she was a great cabaret singer, would you say?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=658.0,661.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Yes. Well, she was a good interpreter. She had a rather nice voice, not deep.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=661.0,669.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: She had a certain charm in her singing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=669.0,670.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Very charming. And she was a very erudite, she was educated and musically, too, she could...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=670.0,677.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Did she do Kurt Weill?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=677.0,677.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=677.0,678.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Yeah she did a nice program of Kurt Weill. Yes, she did a nice program of Kurt Weill. And sometimes she would, you know, play--sing Schubert and play. She was good pianist, you know, so she was all around the very charming, very continental singer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=678.0,696.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: So you recorded with her for the Israel Music Foundation...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=696.0,699.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: For the Israel Music Foundation. And then later on, there was a group, Michael and Mary Herman, they were the biggest folk dance instructors, directors, and the biggest folk dance group, where they taught international, they taught Americana, they taught all kinds, they even had, for years, a camp in Maine somewhere that people would come up, and he recorded called the Folk Dancers series. He liked what he heard. So he got me and Martha in as a kind of an addition to what the Israel Music Foundation did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=699.0,732.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: When you recorded for the Israel Music Foundation, what kind of backup did you have?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=732.0,737.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Well, folk-type things. A flute...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=737.0,738.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: Who made the arrangements?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=738.0,738.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Uh, Ilya Comshapiro [sic] was his name, he was an Israeli guy, and he did it both for Israel Music Foundation and for the folk dancer series. And I subsequently met him in Israel. He was also a symphonic conductor, you know, and so on. So he did the arrangements. It was a folk-type of arrangement with a flute, and drum, some accordion. And I'm very happy about the folk dancing thing because I did things there that were just as beautiful. You know, in fact, there is a [inaudible] that I did and my friend, I had a friend of mine Paiute Pete. It's strange, isn't it, named after Paiute  Tribe. He was a good American Jewish boy from Queens. His name was Morris Kaufman. His father was a hard-working beker, you know, a baker.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=738.0,791.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: But I already was--my records were already played. The Jewish folk song were...Art Raymond used to play it a lot. And his father used to say, \"oh, I heard Mort Freeman:\" and so on and so forth. Well, that was the most popular, the wonderful folk dance aficionados used to love to come there and spend a couple of hours. They were fantastic. Mike and Mary, wonderful teachers. So when I would visit sometimes slyly to, you know, he'd put on their [sings]. You know, I recorded for him. And apparently it was an exciting rendition, whatever. And then he would say, \"Ed [sic], you know, that's Mort Freeman:. He's the singer.\" I was like the Bikel of the folk field or something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=791.0,842.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: And you also made some Yiddish albums. There was--the first album was made for Tikva Records. You want to tell us about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=842.0,849.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Well, Allen Jacobs was the director of that, of the company. And I don't quite remember how I met--I may have met him through Fershko too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=849.0,861.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: You say Fershko meaning Shmuel Fershko?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=861.0,866.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Shmuel Fershko. And I forgot--I have so many aspects of him [sic], it's hard to put it all together. 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It was called in Jewish Unser and the children's camp was called, like all other of these Jewish institutions, was called Kinder. So there it was Kinderwelt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=884.0,895.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: I see, Unser Camp was not for children?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=895.0,898.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Unser Camp was adult. And sometimes people would come and spend the week. So there was...they also had a counselor to take care of people like that. But they--but there was another...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=898.0,908.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: For adults, like a cultural...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=908.0,909.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Yeah, a cultural adult. Sometimes they'd bring their children, spend a week or whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=909.0,913.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Yeah, it's very convenient, because there's also...[crosstalk]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=913.0,913.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: And then sometimes we would be called upon. They had like a modified service on Saturday morning. 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You were about to ask something?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=929.0,934.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: Didn't Lazar Weiner to go up to...Weiner went up to Unser Camp or he went to Camp Boiberik?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=934.0,940.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: I want to...no, he probably did, but Lazar Weiner was involved, in his past...you know, it's strange. Lazar Weiner. There are two composers who wrote beautiful folk music. One of them I did. There's another one, I didn't do a nign, but I can't do everything, you know, I did for him. You know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=940.0,958.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Who's the other one?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=958.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Bugatch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=960.0,961.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Yeah, did you know Bugatch?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=961.0,966.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Yes. Now Bugatch, I suspect that both of them, including Secunda were involved in both institutions, both in the Workmen's Circle and the Unser Camp.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=966.0,975.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=975.0,976.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Well, they were music--Bugatch was music director for a while, for the children's, for the Kinderwelt. But he was also music director for Kinderland. And he was involved in both, and he compiled a book of songs for both the Workman's Circle and one for Unser Camp, which is fantastic. He did it for Arbeiter...for the Farband, they called  it Farband. Labor Zionist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=976.0,1004.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: That's the book of  [inaudible]?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1004.0,1006.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: This book was something else. That was from...this was a woman who was involved with the children's camp, Kinderwelt, and she compiled the book, a very nice one. But there's another one that Bugatch did for, not just for the children, but for for the Farband. And it consisted--consists of Israeli and Jewish material. 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And he was involved because he was like the sort of music director for the army or something, you know, for the [inaudible] was like USO in Israel. And then years later, we met again, in Unser Camp, but we had something else doing. We did a national tour for a Zionist Organization of America. Fershko and I. With an Israeli star, and I was like the American host.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1048.0,1076.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: Who was the Israeli star?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1076.0,1078.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: I can't think of her name now, so first time we di--she did Anne Frank, Diary of Anne Frank. So she did it years before that. Fershko was also--like he represented Israel in the music and she was a singer and an actress, more of an actress. She recited things and so on and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1078.0,1101.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: So what did you record for Tikvah with Mr. Fershko?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1101.0,1104.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Well, I think it's a kind of classic. I recorded one of the songs I sang now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1104.0,1110.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Which one?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1110.0,1112.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: \"A zemerl,\" that's by Bugatch and Zeitlin is the composer--the author. And I did \"Reisele.\" And \"Oif'n Veg Shteit A Boim\"[sings]. You know, you've heard it before. And \"Yam lieder,\" you ever hear it? Hayim Nachman Bialik and...it was based on Judah Halevi's original words and a number of other things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1112.0,1142.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Let's talk about some of the things you did today...you said you want to talk about it and so do I. You started out, you sang \"Dodi Li.\" That was very popular in the United States at one time. You heard it at every wedding.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1142.0,1155.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Yes, at every wedding. And it's, you see, the \"Dodi Li\" I did...see, first of all, with Martha Schlamme, I did a whole series of things. I did my [sic] and I did other things. The \"Dodi Li\" was popular, but there was a group called the Oranim . And that was with Dov Seltzer, who was then still married to, uh...Geula Gill, yes. And I was called in as a guest, a special guest artist, and I sang along with various things, but two things I did solo. One is \"Hey, Harmony,\" [sings]. And the other one was \"Dodi Li.\" So that I recorded with Geula Gill.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1155.0,1208.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: You sang \"Belz.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1208.0,1209.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1209.0,1209.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: And that's a piece, that's a theater song.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1209.0,1212.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Yes, I became exposed to that too. You know, I wasn't all just folk. I became involved. And in the course of my experiences, I met with some of the great theater folk who are also good interpreters of song, and I'm talking about Ben Bonus and Mina Bern. They were entrepeneurs for Jewish, for Yiddish theater. They directed--he led a lot of tours for Workmen's Circle and for various Jewish groups. And they for a while tried to do vaudeville on Second Avenue, the theater was called Fillmore. And I got to meet them and I met Mogik [sic], and I met Yablokoff and all these people and I was invited to play the vaudeville. I never played theatre, but I did vaudeville in costume.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1212.0,1266.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: But this is very important. We haven't talked enough about vaudeville. So tell me about that. I mean, what year--what year did you come to the United States?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1266.0,1273.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: I guess it was close to 1930 or something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1273.0,1277.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: So Yiddish theater was in its heyday here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1277.0,1280.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Well, it was, but I was in swaddling clothes and then another of my experiences later on was to meet Herschel Bernardi.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1280.0,1289.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: But tell me about the Yiddish vaudeville.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1289.0,1292.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: The Yiddish vaudeville, well, what we did was they made sketches and things, you know, and...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1292.0,1297.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Where did you do Yiddish vaudeville.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1297.0,1299.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Huh?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1299.0,1300.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Give me some examples, where?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1300.0,1302.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: No, it was a place called Fillmore Theater.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1302.0,1306.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: All at the Filmore?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1306.0,1306.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Yes. And basically--and there was another place where I did one or two things but mostly in the Fillmore because Ben and Mina were involved in that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1306.0,1313.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Was there an orchestra?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1313.0,1314.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Yeah, there was an orchestra.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1314.0,1315.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: And who were some of the people who conducted, the orchestrations, musical directors, all that sort of stuff?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1315.0,1323.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: Renee Solomon worked for them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1323.0,1323.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Renee worked with them, too. But I don't remember that because...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1323.0,1329.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: This was a different crowd than the Yiddish theater crowd?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1329.0,1331.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Well, already the basic Yiddish theater when I worked there, and that was in the '50s and so on, when I worked in the vaudeville, the basic Yiddish, that was gone. You know, they still had production, Ben tried some production of Broadway, but it was gone. The National Theatre, those places were out. So, uh...so the vaudeville was the closest thing to Yiddish theater and people would come, you know. All kinds.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1331.0,1366.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Can you remember some of the things that you did there, what kind of stuff, and who wrote the scripts is a good question. 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You see, that's...and the songs I did were, you know, some Yiddish theater, some classic and I did my \"[inaudible]\" there were songs like that and \"Tanchum.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1373.0,1394.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: Did anybody ever write a song specifically for one of these vaudeville shows. Did Renee Solomon, let's say, if she were the music director, make up a song just for a spot, or do they do topical revues with special songs?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1394.0,1408.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Yes, well, let's put it this way. In these tours that they did, it was like vaudeville. You know, it was bringing vaudeville with them and the tour they had, I was on a couple of these tours. It was like an extension of the vaudeville idea. One half was Kleynkunst, which was variety. And sometimes they had another half, for an hour dedicated to a theme. One year, it was Mordechai Gebirtig. Great composer--folk composer of Krakow. And I play the characters out of it, you know. There was a very fine Jewish writer, I...you know, when I think of it, I'll call you up and you'll put it down in your memorabilia. He was a poet and writer for the Forward.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1408.0,1462.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: And...and he wrote the...so he wrote a special script. And in it, there was a guy Shmuel Fisher who looked like he was a comedian and actor who had that lean, survivor look, you know, lean, skeletonic face, nose, and bald, and he looked like what Mordechai Gebirtig looked. So he played the role of Mordechai Gebirtig. And I was like, different characters. 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Well, but the other part was like a play within a play. 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First of all...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1531.0,1533.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: Did he write?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1533.0,1534.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: He emceed the show. The thing, the playlet, you know, so it was a one hour dedicated to Gebirtig, it was all in costume. But then again, in vaudeville, they would have sketches. So they'd put on costume sketches. You know, about Shidduch, about a shadkhan, about...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1534.0,1552.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: So it's a revue. And how often would that change? Would it run for three months and then change to a new one or six months or one month or how long were they?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1552.0,1558.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Well, no, in...listen, as far as the vaudeville is concerned, they did--they had a bag of tricks of all kinds, they had hundreds of sketches of things, so they were able to change every week [crosstalk].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1558.0,1574.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: So if somebody came to the show...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1574.0,1574.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Yeah, because if they came to the show again, they would see the same thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1574.0,1578.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: So did it have a name, did each show have a separate name or just \"vaudeville\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1578.0,1580.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: I don't know. You know, with the vaudeville was something very important for me. They played a film. It was not just one of them. 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Even then, yeah they had subtitles in the '60s, yes. 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And so after that they would have the vaudeville.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1622.0,1625.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Do you--did you see, for example, about eight years ago...eight, nine years ago, it started off Broadway [sic]...and went out and went to Broadway, you know, \"Those Were the Days,\" for example, it was...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1625.0,1642.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Well, I'll tell you what was a revue some years ago, \"Golden Land.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1642.0,1646.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: \"Golden Land.\" Yeah, those kinds of--is that what you're talking about, that type of thing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1646.0,1648.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Yeah, well, it was the \"Golden Land\" was an extension of that thing, but it had a lot of English in it. So as I said, I knew Fershko and we knew each other in Florida, too. And so he did my Yiddish album and he did it superbly. It's as if he wrote wonderful arrangements.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1648.0,1669.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: He improvised, mostly...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1669.0,1671.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: He improvised, but he knew me very well. We worked together in Unser Camp and so on. And in vaudeville down there. That was vaudeville there too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1671.0,1678.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: \"There\" meaning Florida?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1678.0,1678.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: In Florida, yeah, in Miami. As I worked with him there too. And in the course of my work as a cantor, and I traveled all over. One of them was in Philadelphia. In the Main Line. And a temple called Adath Israel. It happens that the rabbi was a good composer. His brother was a rabbi at Bnai--at Bnai Jeshurun and he was a rabbi there. And he did a lot of arrangements and things. So when I was there, his wife was a collector of Israeli material and I wanted to do an album in Israel. So they contacted me. I liked whatever Mona Rosenblum did, you know, he did the Hasidic with a children's choir and so on. 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That was a Fershko one too. This is called \"The World's Torah in Song and a Wedding in the Old Country.\" And with this album, Fershko made the arrangements, but he did a good job, you know, when he's disciplined, he can do a terrific job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1781.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: This is a 15 piece ensemble.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1800.0,1801.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Yeah, it was a big ensemble. And we got a legend, Dave Tarras. The greatest. And they're ones who are today, they follow that his foot--at his feet, they worshiped him, you know, he taught them. And so Dave Tarras did the wedding scenes especially, and there's one called the \"Batkhones,\" which I learned and I did with him. And to this day, it's a wonderful thing. Someday I'd like to have a commercial again. I don't know. I made a recording. I have the record and I made a disc out of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1801.0,1840.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: When did that all come to an end? The Yiddish vaudeville thing. When did it all come to an end?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1840.0,1846.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Well, the theater as such, you know, and the Fillmore, I think by the '60s it was over, I don't know. 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So they tried Broadway and I was even in on that for a while. But that's about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1876.0,1887.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: And after that? Let's say the last 15, 20 years, what have you done mostly, aside from relax, in mostly Yiddish [sic]?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1887.0,1898.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Well, again, there are always some things they tried, you know, special programs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1898.0,1905.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: What about the year--you sang a song \"Unter beymer.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1905.0,1909.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: I still do it. There are still groups that love Yiddish songs, you know. I worked in several branches and there's an organization called YIVO [sic] and they're very dedicated. And in Florida, the biggest social event for 10 weeks is to have a lecturer, and someone like myself, I do two programs every season with an author, a poet. I sing these songs. And Yiddish folk material, and \"Unter beymer\" comes from Yiddish theater, but it has a very folk quality, it has a Yiddish art.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1909.0,1943.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Well, I don't think it comes from theater. It's from a film. Isn't it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1943.0,1946.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Oh, no--it was from a film. OK. That's like Yiddish theater film. Let's put it that way. It's basically Yiddish theater, you know. But yeah. I mean, it's--I mean, yeah, it's a whole storyline.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1946.0,1961.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: [Crosstalk] \"Overture to Glory.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1961.0,1962.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Yeah. Those pictures were great because...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1962.0,1965.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: Those were Moishe Oysher's words.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1965.0,1966.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Yes. 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The only one that I knew and met a number of times was Sholom Secunda.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1973.0,1981.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Did you know Ellstein?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1981.0,1983.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Abe Ellstein, I met him when he was still alive and he used to have a program on WEVD and he used to end with, \"[inaudible] makht nisht,\" you know, his own charm. So I appeared a few times with him. We played and we sang.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1983.0,1999.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: I understand you also have appeared in movies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1999.0,2000.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Well the movies, I'm just, that's--I'm a member of the Screen Actors Guild, so I have a good character face. I do a lot of background, but there's one in which the Yiddish, twice in which my Jewish background, one and the Hasidic and cantorial came in handy. The other my connection with Yiddish theater. One of the agents, Joy Todd [sic], she's an agent that's booked a lot of extras and all kinds of things. I was involved with her, used to call her up. So once upon a time, there was a picture called, exactly, \"Once Upon a Time in America.\" That's the one about Jewish gangsters. And it's become a cult kind of picture. You know, there are people who follow that, like God knows. You see, including I have a friend of mine, Lugosi [sic], he's a wonderful actor plays Italians, mostly, he's a nice Jewish boy he likes that film, it's called \"Once Upon a Time in America,\" deals with Jewish gangsters from the '30s, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2000.0,2062.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: You can hardly tell them from the Italian. They're very American--he is a certain kind of American, Americanese. So a lot of that took place in Williamsburg. Actually, they hardly had to change anything. And I was booked to be in the background. And so I even have pictures of me, Hasidic and all that. And I even spoke to the people looking around. And one day I had--I worked as a cantor in Philadelphia in the Main Line, and I couldn't be there for the Sabbath, you know, because I have to work. I'm not saying if I would have or not, but I couldn't, I was working. So I told them, \"listen, I'm a cantor, I can't come\". So, all right, I had to report in Monday. I reported in on Monday, and one of the assistant directors came over and said, \"we understand you're a cantor, too.\" OK, \"well, we need a scene for a Jewish street singer.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2062.0,2123.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: So I said, OK, and one of the cast also was from Yiddish theater, Herschel Rosen, he is an old friend of mine. I knew him well. I told him about it. So he gave me a song and I checked with Seymour Rechzeit too, [\"inaudible phrase],\" you know, it's very funny, he says a father of seven orphans. Well, whatever. And so I became a street singer. And to this day, I still get residuals. My name is there, Mort Freeman, \"street singer.\" And I had a derby and I called from my, whatever I had from the theatrical thing, I would take off the derby and say, \"shenk dayne [inaudible],\" and I'd say \"[inaudible phrase],\" you know, there was--it was in the tenement housing, and when I took off the derby, there was a yamaka of course, you know, and the director of this was the director of the spaghetti westerns. His name was Sergio Leone. 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Oh, they just--yeah I read about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2227.0,2230.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: And they opened the place on the--which is very similar. But, you know what...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2230.0,2233.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: It's not the same.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2233.0,2235.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: ...if it's too elegant, no good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2235.0,2236.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: That's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2236.0,2237.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: People can go to the Smarny [sic] side if they want the elegant schmelegant. They love to come here in the dugout and they yell, you know, and leave their hairdown. We've met people from all over, people that I'd become friendly with, Billy Crystal and now my fans. So that's an extension of Yiddish vaudeville nightclub. There was a parallel Jewish nightclub.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2237.0,2259.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Well, I mean, even recently, Robert Paul.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2259.0,2264.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: That's his friend. Yes. 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Now I remember--didn't you sing with him together at Sammy's?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2270.0,2274.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: For years. I mean it was my headquarters. That's right. And we had another one who sang for a while. 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He was there with Fitch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2284.0,2296.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: So what happened with Fitch? He's not there anymore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2296.0,2297.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: No, Bernie Fitch, let me put it this way. Any time, you never know when you're going to tune in on the Met. You know, from the--from Lincoln Center, live from Lincoln Center, you take a look and you never know when you see the roll up time, \"Bernard Fitch.\" He is what group [sic] character acting is to theater, they call him [inaudible]. These are guys that are very important, could play important roles, not their background, not their corners [sic], not a bit part. These are important roles in Mozart and all kinds of things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2297.0,2334.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Does he do Hazzanus anymore?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2334.0,2335.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: I think he did--well, he had that tie in with some temple in Yonkers. It's--and he did the Rosh Hashanah there. 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And olev ha-sholom, listen, Tucker, when I go to the Lincoln Center area and I see a statue of his near the Met and he had the honor, the posthumous honor of being--the service was in the chapel. I mean, was in this stage of the Met. Right. You know. But in strictly hazzanus, I once played it when my father was still alive, and what's the name, from Lefkowitz from Metro, he used to say, \"take this, I want to give him a good hazzanus album.\" And we played it, but it...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2356.0,2395.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: What's wrong?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2395.0,2396.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Huh?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2396.0,2397.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barry Serota: What's wrong with it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2397.0,2398.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: No, it was...the \"Eyne dreidel\" [sic] was not...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2398.0,2402.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Who would you rather have listened to?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2402.0,2404.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Well, the great hazzanim. I mean, listen, it's not only Rosenblatt but, uh...what's the name? Moshe Koussevitzky was among the greatest. All these were great. And this was an innate part of their upbringing. 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The other one was called \"Over the Brooklyn Bridge\" with Sid Caesar and Elliott Gould. What's her name is former husband, you know, Barbra Streisand. And part of the scenery took place in Sammy's. But I was not in that scene. There was a wedding in a shtiebel somewhere. And it was, you know, we hired a lot of people from Borough Park, and others, you know. Of course it was--there was a guy, a sort of artistic director himself who was orthodox. So, you know, it's like when you see \"The Dybbuk\" and a lot of these kids were Yeshiva kids. You know, \"The Dybbuk\" when they, the kids sang, it was made in Poland. And of course, they don't, they wouldn't film it on, wouldn't be on Shabbos and so on. So there was a certain authenticity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2436.0,2494.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: And I played the part of the hazzan, the [inaudible] khadoshim, you know. I mean, I sang [sings] you know, real Hassidic, [sings] and [sings], everybody answered. So if you ever see, if it revives anywhere, it's called \"Over the Brooklyn Bridge.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2494.0,2519.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: \"Over the Brooklyn Bridge.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2519.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: And they had a little synagogue in Brooklyn. 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What did you do on \"Eternal Light\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2537.0,2541.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: I sang. I did it with Bikel, once. 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You sing, you talk?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2561.0,2562.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: I sang.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2562.0,2563.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Just singing no talking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2563.0,2563.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Just singing. I was background and so on. And so...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2563.0,2570.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: There's no Bikel?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2570.0,2573.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Bikel? Yeah, we met and I knew him. Another close friend of mine was Herschel Bernardi. 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Background. I was in the background.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2614.0,2618.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: There are very few people who, certainly now, who we could talk to, who made a primary--I hate the word \"career\" in music--but devoted themselves to song as opposed to hazzanus and song on the side. I mean, to Yiddish song and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2618.0,2635.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Yeah, Yiddish song.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2635.0,2637.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: You mentioned Lazar Weiner and the niggun, but did you do anything with other art song repertoire such as Lazar Weiner's, the rest of his music or Golub, for example, or whatever, or how about the songs from...art songs, you know, Kunstlieder. Or mostly...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2637.0,2656.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Not too much, although my album does have that aspect and it's some...[crosstalk].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2656.0,2662.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: It's the kind of thing, for example, I'm thinking of somebody....[crosstalk].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2662.0,2664.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: ...like a certain artistry like...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2664.0,2666.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: ...I'm thinking of somebody like Sidor Belarsky.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2666.0,2670.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2670.0,2670.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: That kind of repertoire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2670.0,2672.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: Well, some of it was his repertory, \"A Zemer\" was his repertory. 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John Crane [sic]. City Center.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2739.0,2742.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: No, no. Norman Atkins. He sang \"The Golem\" because he fit, he was big and so on. 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I mean, unfortunately.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2758.0,2763.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Well the reviews are mixed, but look at reviews [crosstalk].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2763.0,2766.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: But you see, when you go to your roots the way...nothing...what...among the greatest of great songs in Yiddish, and I say art and folk and the whole thing is a nigun. 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You know, he sang [sings], \"Viglid,\" [crosstalk] Yampolsky.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2793.0,2808.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/323","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: Art songs, different styles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2808.0,2810.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/324","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mort Freeman: You know what I mean? Now, I could sing some of those things. And in my album, when I do even the song, like \"Yam Lieder,\" that has--definitely has that art type of thing, you've heard \"Yam Lieder,\" yeah? It has that feeling. Um, but I see as far as I'm concerned, Belarsky was great in what he did. He had an inner depth that was fantastic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2810.0,2842.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/66210/annotation/325","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Neil Levin: It's been wonderful hearing you and talking to you. 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So it’s, my world is divided between cantorial, which is not all year round — basically, for the holidays — and for…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=16.0,36.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/329","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN:  But up until this point in your life, from the time you began singing, which must have been as a child?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Pretty much.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  You began, you’re devoted…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Well, I, my father was a, a wunderkind — a boy cantor, a child prodigy.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  Where?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=36.0,50.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFREEMAN:\u003c/strong\u003e From Hungary.  Hungary-Romania.  You know, it’s the Hungarian — Hungary, basically.  And, and he was also a Rav.  He was rosh hayeshiva and so on.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eAnd smicha, in Pressburg, was a big, well-known institute in Europe.  And he was a wonderful musician.  He read solfege like we read a book, you know what I mean.  And somehow, we sang with him.  We were a bit of a choir with him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=50.0,76.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN:  Where?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  At home.  Well, and also, in shul.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  I mean, here, in America?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Here in America.  Yeah.  Because I was…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  You were born here?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  I came here as a child, and I was brought up in America.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  But where were you born?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  I was born in Hungary.  A little town, a town, probably, with a good-sized shul.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  But do, you came to the United States…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  As a child.  Yes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  As a child.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Yeah, about four years of age.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=76.0,96.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN:  Yeah. And your father was davenning as a hazzan?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Yes.  He was a wonderful hazzan.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  Under the name Freeman?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  But there was a conflict.  Because, you know, he was also a, he was a rosh hayeshiva, and he was a…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  Where?  In New York?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Well, in New York.  In the Lower East Side, there was a yeshiva…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  Where?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  …yeshiva called Solomon Kluger School, or Shlomo Kluger.  And in later years, he was a rabbi in Hebrew Alliance in Brighton Beach.  And then, the Mashia (?) family took over after that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=96.0,124.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN:  So, tell me about the choir experience.  You sang as a child…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Not much. LEVIN: Not much?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN: Just at home, basically.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  You didn’t sing in a choir as a boy?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  No, not really.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  No.  You didn’t have that…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  And I didn’t sing until later on.  You know, after — in, in my teens. Not…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  And so, how did you get started with this, with this career of Yiddish singing and Yiddish songs?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=124.0,144.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFREEMAN:\u003c/strong\u003e Yiddish songs, Israeli, and… Well, I sort of, after yeshiva, when I sort of broke away a little bit, and I was on my own.  I didn’t have much guidance in life.  I, you know, I have some influence with my father, and part of my family is Hasidic, and so on and so forth.  I sort of grew up very, in an eclectic kind of experience. I got involved with, with a group called the American People’s Chorus.” They recorded Ballad for Americans, with Paul Robeson.  And somehow, I got connected with the various elements of…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=144.0,194.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN:  Now, tell me more about that.  The American People’s Chorus was, was in New York?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  They were linker.  They were left.  In those days.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  Obviously, you can tell, I’m not, that’s a choir…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  They were left.  They were…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  No, no, no. American People’s Chorus was…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  I, I myself was never a communist.  You know, I never joined the club.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  But it’s a club.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  But I, but they were very involved in folk music.  I met Pete Seeger that way.  I met others.  And I met…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=194.0,215.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/336","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN:  What year, what year was that?  In the ‘30s?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Definitely… well, actually, the ‘40s.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  In the ‘40s.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Yeah.  I grew up first, you know.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  Who conducted the — but that was here, in New York?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Yes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  Who conducted the American People’s Chorus then?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  I can’t think of his name, just now.  Earl Robinson started it, you know.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  What, in…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  There were some, right now, it’s so many years ago.  And one of the conductors was Dean Dixon.  He was a famous Negro, or Black, conductor.  And…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=215.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN:  And you sang in it with the chorus?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  I sang with the chorus,  I did solos, and then I got, I did the Ballad for Americans twice.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  Where did it…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Once in Prospect Park; one south in Jersey.  And I replaced a singer, Kenneth Spencer, who was a Robeson type of singer. And, and then, Earl Robinson also wrote The Lonesome Train.  It was about the…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=240.0,263.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN:  Lincoln.  The Lincoln… the funeral.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Lincoln. And I, I was soloist in that, too.  I didn’t record it, but I was a soloist in that. And then, there’s one song that’s been dear to me all my life.  Aside from the Jewish.  You know, the Americana part of me.  And that’s The House I Live In.  True, Blue Eyes did it, but I, I sang it for many, many years.  Earl Robinson wrote the music.  I think it was Louis Allen.  I’m not sure.  But he wrote the words. But, and then I fell into, to the Yiddish movement.  I was involved with both sides of fairly liberal movements.  Workmen’s Circle, and there was a, a group called, it was, it was a left-wing group. You know, there was a lake in Berkshires called Lake… Sylvan Lake. On one side was the Workmen’s Circle, and the other side was a camp called Lakeland. And the strangest thing, both were involved in Jewish culture and in Jewish…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=263.0,327.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN:  You don’t mean Labor Zionists?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\tFREEMAN:  No.  The Labor Zionists came later.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  You mean, what was that?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  You were involved with the Sholem Aleichem volkshul?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  IWO, it was called.  IWO.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Oh.  The International Workers of the World.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: The International Workers Order.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  The Workers’ Order, yeah.  Oh, no, no.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  Workers’ Organization.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=327.0,342.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFREEMAN:\u003c/strong\u003e Workers’ Organization.  And the other one is IWW — I don’t go back that far.  IWW.  That was a very American, also, in its way, you know. And so, I sang, I begin, I started to pick up a repertoire of Jewish folk material.  And then, from there, I progressed on to Unser Camp.  I went back to my roots.  In Unser Camp, I was emcee for quite a number of years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=342.0,368.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/341","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN:  Now, Unser Camp is operated by…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Labor Zionists.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  That’s Labor Zionist.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Yeah.  And then, I also sang in places like Boiberik — Camp Boiberik.  Which was also involved in….  It was called The Sholem Aleichem Folk Institute.  It was a kind of in-between between those two groups.  And…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  In Unser Camp, did Hebrew and Yiddish?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Some Hebrew, of course.  But there’s more oriented, oriented to, to Yiddish and to Jewish.  And Israeli, too.  And in fact, in, in the Farband, we had services.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=368.0,401.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/342","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN:  Yeah?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  You know.  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  The Labor Zionists.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Yeah.  It was modern, you know. In fact, Leib Glantz once came there, years ago.  And did a weekend.  I have, I have a very, it’s very vague, in a way.  I don’t know how I got, fell into it, but all these were part of my influence.  My, influenced me in my life. And then, while I was doing all that, I went into doing High Holy Day work.  I was helped.  My brothers helped me, and others.  But the nusaḥ, and I took a position for Penn State.  Then, there was a Hillel, and they sponsored me to do the High Holy Day service. And so, what can I tell you?  That’s, that’s, that’s, that’s the, all elements of my, my singing life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=401.0,464.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  How did you first get involved with Israeli folk music?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Okay.  The Israeli folk music, I met Martha Schlamme years ago. Oh, and I also did a lot of, plenty of mountain work.  I was a social director in a place called Harmony Country Club.  It was also cultural, too.  It was progressive, but cultural.  And they used to have ethnic programs, tours, Spanish music, and this and that.  And, and they, everything was supposed to be nice — not the, no vulgarity, and so on.  And I was social director and I had found out from other people that there was a wonderful singer by the name of Martha Shclamme.  And we needed a girl singer to be my co-host and… on the, for the programs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=464.0,515.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  Now, what year was that?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  That was back in the ‘50s.  And I found out that she was in some place called a fur workers resort, or something, and I got in touch and I asked her to come over, and she joined our staff. And she knew Nahum Nardi, the great…  Some reason, through her, I became involved with the Israel Music Foundation.  You know.  Oscar Regan was his name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=515.0,544.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/345","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  What was the Israel Music Foundation?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  It was devoted to Israeli music.  Not just folk dances, but other parts.  They even did some Israeli people singing, from the Israel Opera Company.  They also did some…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Art music?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Art music, too.  But my part was a very, was the greatest thing.  It was involved, it was involved in doing folk dances of Israel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=544.0,572.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/346","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  So you recorded for them a number…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  I recorded for them with Martha Schlamme.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  Together.  In the same…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Together.  Individually and, and duets.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  What was she like?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  She’s a charming, she was a charming refugee from — well, her people come from Vienna.  She was born in Vienna.  And her people had an Orthodox restaurant.  Her name was Haftel.  And she married some guy, Schlamme, so naturally, she retained that name.  They divorced for many years, and she retained the name. And we were quite closely involved, for a time.  I even introduced her to my parents.  You know?  I, I frisked her away from Harmony to some little hotelichel — nice, Yiddish word — saying a small hotel.  Very Orthodox hotel.  It was official Kleinberg’s Israel, it was called.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=572.0,629.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/347","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN:  Where?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  In, in, Wood, Woodburn — that area.  You know.  It was not far from, from other Orthodox hotels.  There was a Pioneer Country Club.  That was very Orthodox.  The Pineview was.  And Homowac is now.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  And…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  So you…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=629.0,648.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/348","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FREEMAN:  And, for awhile, I thought maybe she’ll be my colleague, you know?  But I introduced her to my parents, and they liked her and….  But it didn’t work.  That’s life, you know.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: But, I mean, she was a great cabaret singer, would you say?  Or…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\tFREEMAN:  Yes.  Well, she was a good interpreter.  She had a rather nice voice.  Not deep. \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  She had a certain charm in her singing.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  A very charming, and she was very erudite, she was educated.  And musically, too, she could play…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=648.0,676.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/349","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN:  Did she do a lot of Kurt Weill?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Yeah, she did a nice…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  She did a lot of Kurt Weill stuff.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  …nice program of Kurt Weill.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  I heard her do it.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Yes.  She did a nice program of Kurt Weill.  And sometimes, she would, you know, play Schubert, sing Schubert, and play.  She was a good pianist, you know.  And so, she was all around, a very charming, a very con- a continental singer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=676.0,696.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/350","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  So you recorded with her for the Israel Music Foundation.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  For the Israel Music Foundation.  And then, later on, there was a group that Michael and Mary Herman — they were the biggest folk dance instructors, directors and, and the biggest folk dance group, where they taught international, they taught Americana, they taught all kinds.  They even had, for years, a camp, in Maine somewhere, that people would come up. And he recorded, called The Folk Dancer Series.  He liked what he heard.  So he got me and Martha in as a kind of an addition to what the Israel Music Foundation did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=696.0,733.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  Now, when you recorded for the Israel Music Foundation, what kind of back-up did you have?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Well, folk-type things that are flu…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Who made the arrangements?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\tFREEMAN:  Elyakum Shapirra was his name.  He was an Israeli guy, and he did it both for Israel Music Foundation and for the Folk Dancer Series.  And I subsequently met him in Israel.  He was also a symphonic conductor, you know, and so on.  So, he did the arrangements. It was a folk-type arrangement, with a flute and drum.  Some accordion. And I’m, I’m very happy about the folk dancing thing, because I did things there that were just as beautiful, you know.  In fact, there is a Kooma eikha that I did, and my friend — I had a friend of mine, Paiute Pete. That’s strange, isn’t it?  Named after Paiute Tribe.  He was a good, American Jewish boy from, from Queens.  His name was Morris Kaufman.  His father was a hard-working beker, you know — a baker.  You know. But I already was, my records were already played.  The Jewish folk songs was, were, was — Art Raymond used to play it a lot.  And his father used to say, “Oh, I heard Mort Freeman,” and so on and so forth. Well, it was the most popular, the wonderful band.  And folk dance aficionados used to love to come there.  They’d spend a couple of hours, they were fantastic, Mike and Mary — wonderful teachers. So when I would visit sometimes, so slyly, he’d say, you know, he’d, he’d put on the Kooma eikha zo…, you know, I recorded for him.  And apparently, it’s an, it was an exciting rendition, whatever. And then, he would say, “Ed, you know, that’s, that’s Mort Freeman.  He’s the singer.” I was like the Bikel of the folk field, or something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=733.0,842.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/352","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  Now, you also made some Yiddish albums.  There was, the first album was made for Tikva Records.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Tikva Records.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Do you want to tell us about that?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Well, Allen Jacobs was the director of that, of, of the company.  He was.  And I don’t quite remember how — I may have met him through Fershko, too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=842.0,862.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/353","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN:  Did you say Fershko meaning Shmuel Fershko?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\tFREEMAN:  Shmuel Fershko.  And I forgot — I have so many aspects of, but I can’t, it’s hard to put it all together. I also got to know Fershko because Fershko was music director of Unser Camp, and I was there for years.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  Now, Unser Camp was the camp sponsored by who?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=862.0,882.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/354","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FREEMAN:  The Farband.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  That, that’s the Farband.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Oh, yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  The Labor Zionists.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  It was called in Jewish Unser, and the, and the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  I thought it was Camp (inaudible)\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  And the camp, and the children’s camp was called, like all other, other of these Jewish institutions, it was called kinder.  So there, it was kindervelt.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  I see. Unser Camp was not for children.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Unser Camp was adult.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  Oh.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  And sometimes, people would come and spend a week.  So there was, they always had a counselor to take care of people like that.  But they, but there was another division…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=882.0,908.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/355","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN:  But it was for adults.  Like a cultural…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Yeah, a cultural adults.  Sometimes, they’d bring their children and spend a week, whatever.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  Yeah, it’s very convenient, because it’s also…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  It was part of that.  And sometimes, we would be called upon.  They had like a modified service on Saturday mornings.  The kids wore red and white shirts, and blue, you know, and so on.  And they’d have some kind of a modified service.  And once in a while, Fershko and I would perform for them, for the kids.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=908.0,929.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN:  There was the — yeah, Kindervelt and Kinderland…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  Those were other camps.  Were you about to ask something?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Wasn’t, didn’t Lazar Weiner go up, did Weiner go up to the Unser Camp, or he went to Camp Boiberik?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  I want to — no.  He probably did.  But Lazar Weiner was involved, in his past — you know, it’s strange. Lazar Weiner — there are two composers who wrote beautiful folk music.  One of them I did.  There’s another one I didn’t do — Needham — but I can’t do everything.  You know, I did for him, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=929.0,959.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  Who was the other one?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Bugatch.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Yeah.  I did Bugatch’s…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  Did you know Bugatch?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Yes.  Now, Bugatch, I suspect that both of them, including Secunda, were involved in both institutions.  Both in the Workmen’s Circle and the Unser Camp.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  I don’t know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=959.0,976.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFREEMAN:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, they were music director.  And Bugatch was music director for a while for the children’s, for the Kindervelt.  But he was also music director for Kinderland.  And he was involved in both. And he compiled a, a book of songs for both the Workmen’s Circle and one for Unser Camp, which is fantastic.  He did it for, for Arbiter Ring, for the Farband — they called the Farband the Labor Zionists.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=976.0,1004.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN:  That’s the book of songs you…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  This, this book was something else.  That was from the — this was a woman who was involved with the children’s camp, Kindervelt.  And she compiled a book, a very nice one. But there’s another one that Bugatch did for the — not just for the children, but for, for the Farband.  And it consisted, it consists of Israeli and Jewish material, and this and that. See, I knew, I knew Bugatch.  And I met…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1004.0,1031.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  And you knew, you knew Fershko.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  And Fershko.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  From Unser Camp.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  From Unser Camp.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  And didn’t you also work with him on the road?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  And I’ll tell you that strangely enough, that years before that, I once — when I, in my earlier visit to Israel, I did a, a program for Kol Yisrael — you know, for the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Kol Yisrael.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1031.0,1049.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFREEMAN:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.  And he was involved, because he was like the sort of music director for the army, or something, or for the (SOUNDS LIKE chiz patrone) was like USO in Israel.  And then, years later, we met again, in Unser Camp. But we had something else doing.  We did a national tour for Zionist Organization of America.  Fershko and I.  With an Israeli star, and I was like the American host.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1049.0,1076.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/362","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  Who was the Israeli star?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  I can’t think of her name, now.  Her first name was Dina.  She did Anne Frank.  Diary of Anne Frank.  So she did it years before that. And Fershko was also like the music — he represented Israel in the music, and she was a singer.  And an actress.  More of an actress, it was.  She recited things, and so on and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1076.0,1101.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/363","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  What did you record for Tikva with Mr. Fershko?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  I think, I think it’s a kind of classic.  I recorded one of the songs I sang now.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  Which one?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\tFREEMAN:  A Zemer. That’s by Bugatch.  And Zeitlin is the composer.  The, the author.  And I did Raizele, and Oyfn Veg Shteyt a Boym. You know, you heard it before.  And Yam Lieder.  You ever hear it? Chaim Nachman Bialik, and it was based on, Yehuda Halevi’s original words. And a number of other things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1101.0,1142.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/364","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN:  Let’s talk about some of the things you did today.  You said you wanted to talk about it, and so do I.  You started out, you sang Dodi Li.  And that was very popular in the United States.  At one time, you heard it at every wedding.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Yes.  At every wedding.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  How, how did it go?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  And it’s, you see, the Dodi Li I did —  See, first of all, with Martha Shlamme, I did a whole series of things.  I did Mayim, and I did other things.  The Dodi Li was popular, but there was a group called The Oranim.  And that was with Dov Seltzer, who was then still married to…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1142.0,1182.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/365","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  Geula.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Geula Gill.  Yes. And I was called in as a guest, a special guest artist.  And I sang along with the various things.  But two things I did a solo.  One is Hey Harmoni.  because it’s a hora.  And the other one was Dodi Li. 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And they, for awhile, tried to do vaudeville on Second Avenue.  And the theater was called Fillmore. And I got to meet them, and I met Moshe (?) and I met Yablokoff and all these people.  And I was invited to play the vaudeville.  I never played theater, but I did vaudeville in costume.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1207.0,1266.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/367","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN:  Now, but this is very important.  We’ve had theater. We haven’t talked enough about vaudeville.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  So tell me about — well, what year did you come to the United States?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN: I guess it was close to 1930 or something.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  So Yiddish theater was in its heyday here.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Well, it was, but I was in swaddling clothes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  Right.  So…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  And then, another of my experiences, later on, was to meet Herschel Bernardi.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1266.0,1289.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/368","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN:  But tell me about the Yiddish vaudeville.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  The Yiddish vaudeville?  Well, what they did was, they made sketches and things, you know.  And…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  Where did you do Yiddish vaudeville?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Huh?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  Give me some examples where.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  No, it was a place called Fillmore Theater.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  All at the Fillmore?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Yes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1289.0,1309.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/369","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FREEMAN:  Basically.  And there was another place where I did one or two things.  But mostly in the Fillmore, because Ben and Mina were involved in that.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  There was an orchestra?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Yeah.  There was an orchestra.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  Who were some of the people that conducted?  I mean, the orchestrations, or musical directors — all that stuff.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Renee Solomon worked with them?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Renee worked with them, too.  But I don’t remember that, because…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1309.0,1329.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/370","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN:  This was a different crowd than the Yiddish theater, than the theater crowd?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  Well, already, the basic Yiddish theater, when I worked there — and that was in the ‘50s, and so on — when I worked in the, in the vaudeville, the basic Yiddish theater was gone.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1329.0,1347.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/371","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFREEMAN:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, they, they still had productions.  Ben tried some productions on Broadway — you know, Broadway.  But it was gone.  The National Theater — those, those places were out.  So, so the vaudeville was the closest thing to Yiddish theater. And people would come.  You know.  All kinds.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1347.0,1366.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/372","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN:  Can you remember some of the things that you did there?  What kind of stuff?  And who wrote the scripts is a good question.  Who wrote the scripts?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN:  I, I think Ben and Mina basically worked on, on arranging ideas.  You see?  That’s…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  So, like…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1366.0,1384.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/373","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FREEMAN:  And the songs I did were, you know, some Yiddish theater, some, and some classic.  I did Michael Marshmallow, and there are songs like that, and Tanchum.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Did anybody ever write a song specifically for one of these vaudeville shows?  Did Renee Solomon, let’s say, if she were the music director, make up a song just for a spot?  Or did they do topical revues, with special songs?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1384.0,1409.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/374","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFREEMAN:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.  Well, let’s put it this way — in the vaudeville, in the, in the, in these tours that they did, it was like vaudeville.  You know.  It was bringing vaudeville, and they — in the tour, they had, I was on a couple of these tours.  It was like an extension of the vaudeville idea.  One half was kleynkunst, which was variety. And sometimes they had another half dedicated to a theme. One year, it was Mordechai Gebirtig, great folk composer of Krakow. And I played characters out of it. You know, there was a very fine Jewish writer. I — you know, when I think of it, I’ll call you up and you’ll put it down in your memorabilia. He was a poet and a writer for the Forward and, and he wrote, so he wrote a special script, and in it there was a guy Shmuel Fisher, who looked — he was a comedian and actor — who had that lean survival look, you know. With a lean skeletonic face with a nose and bald and he looked like what Mordechai Gebirtig looked. So he played the role of Mordechai Gebirtig. And I, and I was, like, different characters. One of them was Avramele Avikha, the…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1409.0,1497.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: Somebody had, so they, in other words, this is, this is interesting. I mean, this was all in the early ‘50s, you’d say? Not before that. Not in the ‘40s.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN: No, it — as far as I’m concerned, it were the ‘50s.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e SEROTA: The late ‘50s, early ‘60s.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN: Even then. Even going into that.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: The early ‘60s.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: And they took, what it would take, but somebody had to take these songs or these stories and create the characters and create essentially what you seem to be describing as a revue. 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And… a lot of them, they had subtitles.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Funny you should mention —\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN: And they would play a great film, these wonderful Grine Felder and so on and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1601.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/380","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: Classic. Classic.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN: The classic films. And so after that, they would have the vaudeville.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Did you see for example, about eight years ago… eight, nine years ago, was started an off-Broadway… that went on, went to Broadway, you know, Those Were the Days, for example. 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We worked together at Unser camp, so… And down there, there was vaudeville there too.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: There meaning Florida?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1669.0,1678.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/383","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFREEMAN:\u003c/strong\u003e In Florida, yeah. Miami. So I worked with him there too. And in the course of my work as a cantor, when I traveled all over, one of them was in Philadelphia. In the Main Line. In a temple called Adath Israel. It happens that the rabbi was a good composer. His brother was a rabbi in B’nai Jeshurun, and he was a rabbi there. And he did a lot of arrangements and things. So when I was there, his wife was a collector of Israeli material. And I wanted to do an album in Israel. So they contacted me — I liked whatever Mona Rosenblum did, you know, he did the Hassidic with the children’s choir and so on — so I got in touch, and Bob Weiser made all the arrangements of the Yiddish theater, and also Man of La Mancha, which — I wanted to do something to show my versatility. And this had a noble theme. It was not just another Broadway thing, you know? So I did that and Hallelujah. And I wanted to do Hassidic material. And that’s — I went to Israel for that. Otherwise I could have been here with a good musician. I got very fine musicians, and the Hassidic songs I did I’m very proud of. 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I have the record and I made a disc out of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1800.0,1841.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/386","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: When did that all come to an end? The Yiddish vaudeville thing. When did it all come to an end?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN: Well, the theater as such, you know, in the Fillmore, I think by the ‘60s it was over. 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Ben Bonus had like, Light, Lively, and Yiddish.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN: Yes, he did.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Sing Along Yiddish.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN: And not only that, he did Michael Burstyn, was in one of those productions that —\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Megillah, Itzik Manger. \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN: Yeah, Itzik Manger’s Megillah, which Ben Bonus helped direct or whatever it is. So they tried Broadway. And I was even in on that for a while. But that’s about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1864.0,1887.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/388","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: And after that? Let’s say the last fifteen, twenty years. What have you done mostly? Besides from relax. Mostly Yiddish, or —\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN: Well, again, there were always some things they tried. You know, special programs and — \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: What about — you sang a song, Unter Beymer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1887.0,1909.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/389","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFREEMAN:\u003c/strong\u003e I still do it. There are still groups that love Yiddish songs, you know. The Workmen’s Circle branches and their — there’s an organization called Evole, and they’re very dedicated. And in Florida, the biggest social event for ten weeks is to have a lecturer and someone like myself. I do two programs every season with an author, a poet, and I sing these songs. 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The only one that I knew and met a number of times was Sholem Secunda.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Did you know Ellstein?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1965.0,1983.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/392","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FREEMAN: Abe Ellstein, I met him when he was still alive and he used to have a program on WEVD and he used to end with (Yiddish). It was his own charm, so I appeared a few times with him. We played and we sang.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: I understand you also have appeared in movies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1983.0,2001.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/393","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFREEMAN:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, the movies I’m just, that’s, I’m a member of the Screen Actors Guild. So I have a good character face. I do a lot of background. But there’s one in which the Yiddish, twice in which my Jewish background, once where the Hassidic and the cantorial came in handy, the other my connection with Yiddish theater. One of the agents, Joy Todd — she’s an agent who’s booked a lot of extras and all kinds of things. I was involved with her, used to call her up. So once upon a time, there was a picture called, exactly, Once Upon a Time in America. That’s the one about Jewish gangsters. And it’s become a cult kind of picture. You know, there are people who follow that like God knows. You see, including, I have a friend of mine, Lou Guss, he’s a wonderful actor, plays Italians mostly. He’s a nice Jewish boy. He likes that film. It’s called Once Upon a Time in America. Deals with Jewish gangsters. From the ‘30s, you know. You can hardly tell them from the Italian, they’re very American. American. There’s a certain kind of American, Americanese. So a lot of that took place in Williamsburg. Actually, they hardly had to change anything. And I was booked to be in the background, so I even have pictures of me, with Hassidic, and all that. And I even spoke to the people looking around. And one day — I worked as a cantor in Philadelphia, in the Main Line. And I couldn’t be there for the Sabbath, you know, because I have to work. I’m not saying if I would’ve, I’m not shh, but I couldn’t, I was working. So I told them, Listen, I’m a cantor, I can’t come. So, alright, I had to put in Monday. I reported in Monday, and one of the assistant directors came over and said, We understand you’re a cantor too, okay. Well, we need a scene for, as a Jewish street singer. So I said okay, and one of the cast also was from Yiddish theater. Herschel Rosen. He’s an old friend of mine. I knew him well. I told him about it, so he gave me a song, and I checked with Seymour Rechtzeit too. (Yiddish) You know, it’s very funny. He says father of seven orphans. Well, whatever. And so, I became a street singer. And to this day, I still get residuals. My name is there. Mort Freeman, street singer. And I had a derby and I culled from my, whatever I had from the theatrical thing. So I would take off the derby and say (Yiddish) and I’d say (Yiddish) you know, it was in, it was among tenement houses. And when I took off the derby there was a yarmulke, of course, you know. And the director of this was the director of the spaghetti westerns. His name was Sergio Leone. And one day they all came to a place where I performed for years, Sammy’s Roumanian, on the Lower East Side.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2001.0,2193.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: It’s still there.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN: It’s still there, and I still work from time to time. Used to be there regularly, but now I’m in Florida a lot in the winter. And one day, Sergio Leone was there, and Ed Asner was there from the — He’s the president of the Screen Actors Guild. 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People that I become friendly with, Billy Crystal and the others, they become my fans. So then it’s an extension of Yiddish vaudeville night club. There was a parallel Jewish night club.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2234.0,2259.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/397","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: Well, you know, even recently, Robert Paul.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: That’s his friend!\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN: Yes!\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: You know your friend.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: You know Bob Abelson? \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN: We were — we became very close —\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Oh, wait a minute! Wait, wait, wait. Now I remember. 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No. Olav hashalom and listen Tucker, when I go to Lincoln Center and I see a statue of his, near the Met, and he had the honor, the posthumous honor of being the — service was in the chapel, I mean, was in the stage of the Met.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2355.0,2375.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/39638/annotation/402","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVIN: Right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eFREEMAN: You know. But in strictly hazzanas, I once played it for my father who was still alive, and what’s the name, from — Lefkowitz, from Metro — used to say, Take this. I want to give him a good hazzanas album. 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And there was a — you know, we hired a lot of people from Boro Park and others. You know, of course it was — there was a guy, a sort of artistic director who himself was Orthodox, so — You know it’s like, when you see the Dybbuk, a lot of these kids were yeshiva kids. You know, in the Dybbuk, when they, the kids sang, it was made in Poland. And of course they don’t, they wouldn’t film it on Shabbos, and so on. So there was a certain authenticity. And I played that part of the hazzan, the mesader kiddushin, you know. I mean, I sang real Hassidic. Everybody had to answer. 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Hungary, Romania, you know, Hungarian--Hungary, basically. And he was also a rav. He was rosh hayeshiva and so on. And he had Semikhah in Pressburg, which was a big, well-known institute in Europe. And he was a wonderful musician. He read solfege like we read a book, you know, do, re, mi. And somehow we sang with him, we were a bit of a choir with him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=50.428,75.36"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/424","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Where?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=76.11,76.11"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/425","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e At home. Well, also in shul.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=76.71,78.75"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/426","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean, here in America?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=79.08,80.1"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/427","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Here in America. Yeah, because I was--I came here as a child and I was brought up in America.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=80.819,84.154"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/428","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e And where were you born?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=84.19,84.57"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/429","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e I was born in Hungary. Little town, probably with a good size shul.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=85.59,91.08"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/430","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e But you came to the United States as a child.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=92.16,94.53"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/431","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e As a child. Yeah, about four years of age.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=95.67,96.54"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/432","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e And and you and your father was davening as a hazzan?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=97.14,98.669"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/433","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. He was a wonderful hazzan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=100.05,101.43"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/434","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Under the name Freeman [sic]?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=101.85,102.372"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/435","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e There was a conflict because, you know, he was also he was a rosh yeshiva. 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You sang...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=124.78,126.659"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/439","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Not much, just at home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=126.97,128.41"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/440","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e You didn't sing in the choir as a boy?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=129.52,130.479"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/441","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e No, not really.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=130.72,131.41"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/442","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e No, you didn't have that experience?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=131.97,131.975"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/443","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e And I didn't sing it until later on, you know, after, in my teens, not...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=131.975,136.66"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/444","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e And so how did you get started with this career of Yiddish songs...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=136.759,142.762"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/445","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yiddish songs, Israeli, you know. Well, it's sort of...after Yeshiva when I sort of broke away a little bit and I was on my own. I didn't have much guidance in life. You know, I have some influence, my father and part of my family is Hasidic and so on and so forth. But I sort of grew up in a very eclectic kind of experience and I got involved with a group called the American People's Chorus. They recorded \"Ballad for Americans\" with Paul Robeson. 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In the '30s?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=215.12,216.708"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/451","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, actually, the '40s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=218.57,219.749"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/452","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e The '40s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=220.2,220.28"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/453","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I grew up first.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=220.88,222.05"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/454","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Who conducted the--but that was here in New York?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=222.96,223.49"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/455","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=223.549,223.549"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/456","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Who conducted the American People's Chorus then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=224.51,225.95"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/457","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e I can't think of his name just now. Earl Robinson started it, you know. There was some...right now it's so many years ago. 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I didn't record it when I was a soloist in that. And then there's one song that's been dear to me all my life, aside from the Jewish, you know, the Americana part of me. And that's \"The House I Live In.\" True Blue Eyes did it, but I sang it for many, many years. Earl Robinson wrote the music. I think it was Louis Allen. I'm not sure that he wrote the words, but. And then I fell into the Yiddish movement, I was involved with both sides of fairly liberal movements, Workmen's Circle, and there was a group called...it was a left-wing group. You know, there was a lake in Berkshires called Sylvan Lake. One side was the Workmen's Circle. On the other side was a camp called Lakeland. 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And the other one is a Wobbly, I don't go back that far. IWW, that was a very American also in its way, you know. And so I sang, I begin--I started to pick up a repertoire of Jewish folk material. 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And then I also sang in places like Boiberik, Camp Boiberik which was also involved in--it was called the Sholem Aleichem Folk Institute, it was kind of in between, between those two groups. 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In Fact, in the Farband, we had services.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=387.3,399.71"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/479","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=401.27,401.27"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/480","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah [crosstalk], yeah, it was modern, you know. In fact, Leib Glantz once came there years ago, did a weekend. I have a very--it's very vague in a way, I don't know how I fell into it, but all these were part of my influence--influenced me in my life. And then while I was doing all that...I went into doing High Holy Day work, I was helped, my brothers helped me and others about the Nusach and I took a position for Penn State. Then there was a Hillel and they sponsored me to do the High Holy Day service. And so what can I tell you? That's the...all elements of my singing life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=401.96,463.58"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/481","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e How did you first get involved with Israeli folk music ?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=464.24,468.56"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/482","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e The Israeli folk music. I met Martha Schlamme years ago. Oh, and I also did a lot of, plenty of mountain [sic] work. I was social director in a place called Harmony Country Club. It was also cultural, too, it was progressive, but cultural, and they used to have ethnic programs too, Spanish music, this and that thing. And they--everything was supposed to be nice, not, no vulgarity and so on. I was social director and I'd found out from other people that there was a wonderful singer by the name of Martha Schlamme. And we needed a girl singer to be my co-host and on for the programs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=469.04,515.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/483","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, what year was that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=515.6,516.169"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/484","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e That was back in the '50s. And I found out that she was in some place called [inaudible] or something, and I got in touch and I asked her to come over and she joined our staff and she knew Nahum Nardi, the great...some reason through her, I became involved with the Israel Music Foundation. You know, Oscar Egan [sic].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=516.95,543.806"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/485","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e What was the Israel Music Foundation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=544.37,545.39"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/486","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e It was devoted to Israeli music, not just folk dances, but the other parts. They even did some Israeli people singing from the Israel Opera Company. They also did some...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=546.11,558.89"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/487","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e Art music?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=559.55,559.82"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/488","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Art music, too. But my part was a very--it was the greatest thing. It was...it was involved in doing folk dances in Israel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=560.33,570.162"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/489","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e So you recorded for them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=572.23,573.07"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/490","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e I recorded for them with Martha Schlamme.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=573.31,577.9"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/491","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Together in the same...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=577.961,578.44"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/492","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Together. Individually and...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=578.62,579.542"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/493","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e What was she like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=579.625,579.664"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/494","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e She's a charming--she was a charming refugee, from...well, her people come from Vienna. She was born in Vienna and her people had an Orthodox restaurant. Her name was Haftul [sic] and she married some guy, Schlamme. So naturally she retained that name. They divorced for many years and she retained the name. And we were quite closely involved for a time. I even introduced her to my parents. You know, I just I frisked her away from Hamoni [sic] to some little hotelichl [sic], that's Yiddish way of saying a small hotel, very Orthodox hotel Official Kleinberg's Israel, it was called.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=583.69,627.636"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/495","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Where?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=628.45,628.45"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/496","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e In Woodburn, that area, you know. It was not far from other Orthodox hotels. It was a pioneer [sic] country club that was very orthodox. The Pine View was and Homowack is now. And for a while I thought maybe she'll be my colleague, you know? But I introduced her to my parents and they liked her, but it didn't work. That's life, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=632.62,656.89"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/497","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e But I mean, she was a great cabaret singer, would you say?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=658.03,661.15"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/498","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. Well, she was a good interpreter. She had a rather nice voice, not deep.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=661.95,668.05"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/499","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e She had a certain charm in her singing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=669.01,669.163"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/500","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e A very charming. And she was a very erudite, she was educated and musically, too, she could...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=670.08,675.248"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/501","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Did she do Kurt Weill?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=677.0,677.066"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/502","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=677.93,677.93"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/503","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah she did a nice program of Kurt Weill. Yes, she did a nice program of Kurt Weill . And sometimes she would, you know, play--sing Schubert and play. She was good pianist, you know, so she was all around the very charming, very continental singer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=678.429,694.75"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/504","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e So you recorded with her for the Israel Music Foundation...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=696.714,698.68"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/505","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e For the Israel Music Foundation. And then later on, there was a group, Michael and Mary Herman, they were the biggest folk dance instructors, directors, and the biggest folk dance group, where they taught international, they taught Americana, they taught all kinds, they even had, for years, a camp in Maine somewhere that people would come up, and he recorded called the Folk Dancers series. He liked what he heard. 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A flute...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=737.05,738.579"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/508","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e Who made the arrangements?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=738.76,738.866"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/509","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Uh, Ilya Comshapiro [sic] was his name, he was an Israeli guy, and he did it both for Israel Music Foundation and for the folk dancer series. And I subsequently met him in Israel. He was also a symphonic conductor, you know, and so on. So he did the arrangements. It was a folk-type of arrangement with a flute, and drum, some accordion. And I'm very happy about the folk dancing thing because I did things there that were just as beautiful. You know, in fact, there is a [inaudible] that I did and my friend, I had a friend of mine Paiute Pete. It's strange, isn't it, named after Paiute Tribe. He was a good American Jewish boy from Queens. His name was Morris Kaufman. His father was a hard-working beker, you know, a baker.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=741.55,790.27"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/510","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e But I already was--my records were already played. The Jewish folk song were...Art Raymond used to play it a lot. And his father used to say, \"oh, I heard Mort Freeman\" and so on and so forth. Well, that was the most popular, the wonderful folk dance aficionados used to love to come there and spend a couple of hours. They were fantastic. Mike and Mary, wonderful teachers. So when I would visit sometimes slyly to, you know, he'd put on their [sings]. You know, I recorded for him. And apparently it was an exciting rendition, whatever. And then he would say, \"Ed [sic], you know, that's Mort Freeman. He's the singer.\" I was like the Bikel of the folk field or something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=791.77,840.97"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/511","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e And you also made some Yiddish albums. There was--the first album was made for Tikva Records. You want to tell us about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=842.05,847.267"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/512","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, Allen Jacobs was the director of that, of the company. And I don't quite remember how I met--I may have met him through Fershko too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=849.11,860.548"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/513","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e You say Fershko meaning Shmuel Fershko?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=861.08,864.02"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/514","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Shmuel Fershko. And I forgot--I have so many aspects of him [sic], it's hard to put it all together. I also got to know Fershko because Fershko was music director of Unser Camp, and I was there for years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=866.65,878.93"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/515","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Now Unser Camp was the camp sponsored by Farband, that's the Farband? Labor Zionist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=879.98,883.429"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/516","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh yeah. It was called in Jewish Unser and the children's camp was called, like all other of these Jewish institutions, was called Kinder. So there it was Kinderwelt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=884.086,894.95"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/517","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e I see, Unser Camp was not for children?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=895.34,896.93"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/518","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Unser Camp was adult. And sometimes people would come and spend the week. 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Sometimes they'd bring their children, spend a week or whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=909.11,912.47"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/521","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, it's very convenient, because there's also...[crosstalk]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=913.1,913.211"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/522","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e And then sometimes we would be called upon. They had like a modified service on Saturday morning. The kids were in white shirts and blue, you know, and so on, and they'd have some kind of a modified service. And once in a while Fershko and I would perform for them, for the kids.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=914.32,928.97"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/523","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e There was a Kinderwelt and Kinderland, those were the other camps. You were about to ask something?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=929.27,932.33"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/524","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e Didn't Lazar Weiner to go up to...Weiner went up to Unser Camp or he went to Camp Boiberik?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=934.7,936.066"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/525","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e I want to...no, he probably did, but Lazar Weiner was involved, in his past...you know, it's strange. Lazar Weiner. There are two composers who wrote beautiful folk music. One of them I did. There's another one, I didn't do a nign, but I can't do everything, you know, I did for him. You know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=940.249,958.25"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/526","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Who's the other one?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=958.64,959.09"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/527","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Bugatch .","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=960.452,960.452"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/528","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, did you know Bugatch?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=961.79,965.617"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/529","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. Now Bugatch, I suspect that both of them, including Secunda were involved in both institutions, both in the Workmen's Circle and the Unser Camp.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=966.769,974.851"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/530","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=975.52,975.85"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/531","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, they were music--Bugatch was music director for a while, for the children's, for the Kinderwelt. But he was also music director for Kinderland. And he was involved in both, and he compiled a book of songs for both the Workman's Circle and one for Unser Camp, which is fantastic. He did it for Arbeiter...for the Farband, they called it Farband. Labor Zionist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=976.24,1002.862"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/532","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e That's the book of [inaudible]?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1004.31,1004.85"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/533","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e This book was something else. That was from...this was a woman who was involved with the children's camp, Kinderwelt, and she compiled the book, a very nice one. But there's another one that Bugatch did for, not just for the children, but for for the Farband. And it consisted--consists of Israeli and Jewish material. So I knew Bugatch, and I met...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1006.128,1029.984"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/534","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e And you knew Fershko from Unser Camp.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1031.13,1031.45"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/535","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Fershko, from Unser Camp.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1031.45,1031.45"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/536","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e And didn't you also work with him on [inaudible]?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1036.65,1036.977"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/537","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e And I tell you this, strangely enough, the years before that, I once, when I in my earlier visit to Israel, I did a program for Kol Yisrael, you know, for the...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1036.977,1047.93"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/538","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Kol Yisrael.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1048.679,1048.734"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/539","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. And he was involved because he was like the sort of music director for the army or something, you know, for the [inaudible] was like USO in Israel. And then years later, we met again, in Unser Camp, but we had something else doing. We did a national tour for a Zionist Organization of America. Fershko and I. With an Israeli star, and I was like the American host.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1048.74,1074.41"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/540","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e Who was the Israeli star?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1076.52,1076.91"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/541","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e I can't think of her name now, so first time we di--she did Anne Frank, Diary of Anne Frank. So she did it years before that. Fershko was also--like he represented Israel in the music and she was a singer and an actress, more of an actress. She recited things and so on and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1078.56,1100.965"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/542","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e So what did you record for Tikvah with Mr. Fershko?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1101.12,1103.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/543","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think it's a kind of classic. I recorded one of the songs I sang now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1104.15,1110.048"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/544","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Which one?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1110.84,1111.08"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/545","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e \"A zemerl,\" that's by Bugatch and Zeitlin is the composer--the author. And I did \"Reisele.\" And \"Oif'n Veg Shteit A Boim\"[sings]. You know, you've heard it before. And \"Yam lieder,\" you ever hear it? Hayim Nachman Bialik and...it was based on Judah Halevi's original words and a number of other things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1112.069,1142.32"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/546","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's talk about some of the things you did today...you said you want to talk about it and so do I. You started out, you sang \"Dodi Li.\" That was very popular in the United States at one time. You heard it at every wedding.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1142.68,1154.92"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/547","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, at every wedding. And it's, you see, the \"Dodi Li\" I did...see, first of all, with Martha Schlamme, I did a whole series of things. I did my [sic] and I did other things. The \"Dodi Li\" was popular, but there was a group called the Oranim . And that was with Dov Seltzer, who was then still married to, uh...Geula Gill, yes. And I was called in as a guest, a special guest artist, and I sang along with various things, but two things I did solo. One is \"Hey, Harmony,\" [sings]. And the other one was \"Dodi Li.\" So that I recorded with Geula Gill.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1155.52,1206.676"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/548","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e You sang \"Belz.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1208.21,1208.217"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/549","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1209.05,1209.05"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/550","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e And that's a piece, that's a theater song.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1209.83,1211.48"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/551","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I became exposed to that too. You know, I wasn't all just folk. I became involved. And in the course of my experiences, I met with some of the great theater folk who are also good interpreters of song, and I'm talking about Ben Bonus and Mina Bern. They were entrepeneurs for Jewish, for Yiddish theater. They directed--he led a lot of tours for Workmen's Circle and for various Jewish groups. And they for a while tried to do vaudeville on Second Avenue, the theater was called Fillmore. And I got to meet them and I met Mogik [sic], and I met Yablokoff and all these people and I was invited to play the vaudeville. I never played theatre, but I did vaudeville in costume.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1212.6,1265.42"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/552","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e But this is very important. We haven't talked enough about vaudeville. So tell me about that. I mean, what year--what year did you come to the United States?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1266.26,1272.47"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/553","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e I guess it was close to 1930 or something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1273.64,1276.58"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/554","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e So Yiddish theater was in its heyday 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And basically--and there was another place where I did one or two things but mostly in the Fillmore because Ben and Mina were involved in that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1306.663,1313.52"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/564","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Was there an orchestra?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1313.849,1313.97"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/565","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, there was an orchestra.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1314.99,1315.99"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/566","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e And who were some of the people who conducted, the orchestrations, musical directors, all that sort of stuff?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1315.995,1321.05"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/567","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e Renee Solomon worked for them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1323.21,1323.57"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/568","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Renee worked with them, too. But I don't remember that because...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1323.61,1328.31"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/569","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e This was a different crowd than the Yiddish theater crowd?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1329.27,1331.52"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/570","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, already the basic Yiddish theater when I worked there, and that was in the '50s and so on, when I worked in the vaudeville, the basic Yiddish, that was gone. You know, they still had production, Ben tried some production of Broadway, but it was gone. The National Theatre, those places were out. So, uh...so the vaudeville was the closest thing to Yiddish theater and people would come, you know. All kinds.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1331.584,1365.46"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/571","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Can you remember some of the things that you did there, what kind of stuff, and who wrote the scripts is a good question. Who wrote the script?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1367.53,1372.15"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/572","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e I think Ben and Mina basically worked on arranging ideas. You see, that's...and the songs I did were, you know, some Yiddish theater, some classic and I did my \"[inaudible]\" there were songs like that and \"Tanchum.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1373.39,1392.44"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/573","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e Did anybody ever write a song specifically for one of these vaudeville shows. Did Renee Solomon, let's say, if she were the music director, make up a song just for a spot, or do they do topical revues with special songs?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1394.09,1404.68"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/574","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, well, let's put it this way. In these tours that they did, it was like vaudeville. You know, it was bringing vaudeville with them and the tour they had, I was on a couple of these tours. It was like an extension of the vaudeville idea. One half was Kleynkunst, which was variety. And sometimes they had another half, for an hour dedicated to a theme. One year, it was Mordechai Gebirtig. Great composer--folk composer of Krakow. And I play the characters out of it, you know. There was a very fine Jewish writer, I...you know, when I think of it, I'll call you up and you'll put it down in your memorabilia. He was a poet and writer for the Forward.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1408.75,1461.96"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/575","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e And...and he wrote the...so he wrote a special script. And in it, there was a guy Shmuel Fisher who looked like he was a comedian and actor who had that lean, survivor look, you know, lean, skeletonic face, nose, and bald, and he looked like what Mordechai Gebirtig looked. So he played the role of Mordechai Gebirtig. And I was like, different characters. One of them was Avremal [inaudible], the...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1462.47,1494.58"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/576","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Somebody--so in other words, this is interesting, I mean...this was all in the early '50s you say? Not before that. Not in the '40s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1497.92,1503.96"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/577","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e No, it's as far as I'm concerned, it was the '50s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1504.68,1506.99"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/578","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e Late '50s, early '60s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1507.62,1508.43"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/579","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Even then, even going into that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1509.12,1511.13"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/580","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e The early '60s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1511.44,1511.73"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/581","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e And they took...whatever takes--so but somebody had to take these songs or these stories and create the characters and create essentially what you seem to be describing as a revue, like a Yiddish revue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1512.75,1522.019"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/582","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. Well, but the other part was like a play within a play. You know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1522.39,1526.88"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/583","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e But somebody had to make that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1527.27,1527.63"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/584","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1527.96,1527.96"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/585","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e And what was Shmuel Fisher's role in this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1529.56,1530.97"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/586","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e He played the role. First of all...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1531.6,1533.16"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/587","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e Did he write?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1533.43,1533.571"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/588","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e He emceed the show. The thing, the playlet, you know, so it was a one hour dedicated to Gebirtig, it was all in costume. But then again, in vaudeville, they would have sketches. So they'd put on costume sketches. You know, about Shidduch, about a shadkhan, about...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1534.36,1551.094"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/589","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e So it's a revue. And how often would that change? Would it run for three months and then change to a new one or six months or one month or how long were they?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1552.75,1557.715"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/590","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, no, in...listen, as far as the vaudeville is concerned, they did--they had a bag of tricks of all kinds, they had hundreds of sketches of things, so they were able to change every week [crosstalk].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1558.27,1572.65"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/591","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e So if somebody came to the show...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1574.329,1574.42"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/592","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, because if they came to the show again, they would see the same thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1574.81,1577.99"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/593","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e So did it have a name, did each show have a separate name or just \"vaudeville\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1578.32,1580.84"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/594","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know. You know, with the vaudeville was something very important for me. They played a film. It was not just one of them. They played these--all these films that were made by Green, you know, classic films, The Dybbuk...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1581.83,1599.222"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/595","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Yiddish?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1602.48,1602.48"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/596","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, Yiddish they had subtitles for those already.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1602.782,1604.34"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/597","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e They had subtitles then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1604.67,1604.911"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/598","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Even then, yeah they had subtitles in the '60s, yes. Uh, and a lot of them, they had subtitles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1604.915,1614.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/599","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e The Fisher you mentioned...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1614.755,1614.755"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/600","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e They would play a great film, these wonderful Grine Felder, and so and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1616.13,1620.339"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/601","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e The classic films.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1621.5,1622.04"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/602","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e The classic films. And so after that they would have the vaudeville.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1622.68,1625.22"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/603","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you--did you see, for example, about eight years ago...eight, nine years ago, it started off Broadway [sic]...and went out and went to Broadway, you know, \"Those Were the Days,\" for example, it was...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1625.82,1642.42"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/604","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I'll tell you what was a revue some years ago, \"Golden Land.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1642.51,1645.3"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/605","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e \"Golden Land.\" Yeah, those kinds of--is that what you're talking about, that type of thing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1646.079,1648.84"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/606","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, well, it was the \"Golden Land\" was an extension of that thing, but it had a lot of English in it. So as I said, I knew Fershko and we knew each other in Florida, too. And so he did my Yiddish album and he did it superbly. It's as if he wrote wonderful arrangements.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1648.93,1668.16"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/607","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e He improvised, mostly...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1669.24,1669.84"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/608","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e He improvised, but he knew me very well. We worked together in Unser Camp and so on. And in vaudeville down there. That was vaudeville there too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1671.24,1676.95"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/609","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e \"There\" meaning Florida?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1678.348,1678.6"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/610","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e In Florida, yeah, in Miami. As I worked with him there too. And in the course of my work as a cantor, and I traveled all over. One of them was in Philadelphia. In the Main Line. And a temple called Adath Israel. It happens that the rabbi was a good composer. His brother was a rabbi at Bnai--at Bnai Jeshurun and he was a rabbi there. And he did a lot of arrangements and things. So when I was there, his wife was a collector of Israeli material and I wanted to do an album in Israel. So they contacted me. I liked whatever Mona Rosenblum did, you know, he did the Hasidic with a children's choir and so on. So I got in touch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1678.6,1733.52"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/611","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e And Bob Reison [sic] made all my arrangements of the Yiddish theater. And also Man of La Mancha, which I want to do something to show my versatility, and this had a noble theme that was not just another Broadway theme, you know, so I did that. And Hallelujah. And I--all the...and I wanted to do Hasidic material, and that's--I went to Israel for that. Otherwise, it could have been here with a good musician. I got very fine musicians. And the Hasidic songs that I did, I'm very proud of. And I did that in Israel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1734.81,1770.67"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/612","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e Wasn't there an additional record you did with Fershko?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1771.42,1773.019"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/613","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1774.78,1774.78"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/614","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Just one?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1776.22,1776.43"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/615","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Just one, the Yiddish folk song, Jewish folk songs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1777.15,1778.89"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/616","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e One with Adele?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1779.51,1779.91"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/617","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh yeah, there's another one. That was a Fershko one too. This is called \"The World's Torah in Song and a Wedding in the Old Country.\" And with this album, Fershko made the arrangements, but he did a good job, you know, when he's disciplined, he can do a terrific job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1781.2,1799.65"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/618","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e This is a 15 piece ensemble.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1800.12,1801.23"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/619","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, it was a big ensemble. And we got a legend, Dave Tarras. The greatest. And they're ones who are today, they follow that his foot--at his feet, they worshiped him, you know, he taught them. And so Dave Tarras did the wedding scenes especially, and there's one called the \"Batkhones,\" which I learned and I did with him. And to this day, it's a wonderful thing. Someday I'd like to have a commercial again. I don't know. I made a recording. I have the record and I made a disc out of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1801.84,1840.593"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/620","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e When did that all come to an end? The Yiddish vaudeville thing. When did it all come to an end?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1840.98,1846.15"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/621","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, the theater as such, you know, and the Fillmore, I think by the '60s it was over, I don't know. I can't give you exact.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1846.93,1855.9"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/622","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean, parts of it...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1857.13,1857.403"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/623","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, then they continued, you know, they had, for a number of years, there were tours and all that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1857.376,1863.97"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/624","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e He had other revues, Ben Bonus had like \"Light, Lively and Yiddish.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1864.39,1867.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/625","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes he did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1867.45,1867.9"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/626","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e \"Let's Sing in Yiddish\" [sic].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1868.309,1868.328"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/627","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Not only that, they did the...Michael Burstyn was in one of the productions that..","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1868.62,1874.17"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/628","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e The Megilla of Itzik Manger.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1875.79,1875.802"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/629","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, Itzik Manger's Megilla, which Ben Bonus helped direct or whatever it is. So they tried Broadway and I was even in on that for a while. But that's about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1876.451,1886.44"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/630","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e And after that? Let's say the last 15, 20 years, what have you done mostly, aside from relax, in mostly Yiddish [sic]?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1887.67,1898.085"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/631","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, again, there are always some things they tried, you know, special programs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1898.4,1904.61"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/632","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e What about the year--you sang a song \"Unter beymer.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1905.54,1907.04"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/633","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e I still do it. There are still groups that love Yiddish songs, you know. I worked in several branches and there's an organization called YIVO [sic] and they're very dedicated. And in Florida, the biggest social event for 10 weeks is to have a lecturer, and someone like myself, I do two programs every season with an author, a poet. I sing these songs. And Yiddish folk material, and \"Unter beymer\" comes from Yiddish theater, but it has a very folk quality, it has a Yiddish art.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1909.14,1943.28"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/634","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I don't think it comes from theater. It's from a film. Isn't it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1943.67,1945.763"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/635","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, no--it was from a film. OK. That's like Yiddish theater film. Let's put it that way. It's basically Yiddish theater, you know. But yeah. I mean, it's--I mean, yeah, it's a whole storyline.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1946.37,1960.26"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/636","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e [Crosstalk] \"Overture to Glory.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1961.49,1961.55"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/637","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Those pictures were great because...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1962.33,1964.88"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/638","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e Those were Moishe Oysher's words.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1965.371,1965.87"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/639","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. His words.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1966.47,1967.019"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/640","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e He wrote the words?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1967.28,1967.46"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/641","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Who wrote the music?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1968.09,1968.66"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/642","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e Olshanetsky.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1970.839,1970.839"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/643","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you know Olshanetsky?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1970.872,1970.919"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/644","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1972.56,1972.56"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/645","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you know any of those guys, Rumshinsky?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1972.616,1973.196"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/646","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Not really. The only one that I knew and met a number of times was Sholom Secunda.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1973.176,1979.46"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/647","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you know Ellstein?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1981.11,1981.59"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/648","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Abe Ellstein, I met him when he was still alive and he used to have a program on WEVD and he used to end with, \"[inaudible] makht nisht,\" you know, his own charm. So I appeared a few times with him. We played and we sang.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1983.508,1998.171"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/649","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e I understand you also have appeared in movies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=1999.11,2000.43"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/650","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Well the movies, I'm just, that's--I'm a member of the Screen Actors Guild, so I have a good character face. I do a lot of background, but there's one in which the Yiddish, twice in which my Jewish background, one and the Hasidic and cantorial came in handy. The other my connection with Yiddish theater. One of the agents, Joy Todd [sic], she's an agent that's booked a lot of extras and all kinds of things. I was involved with her, used to call her up. So once upon a time, there was a picture called, exactly, \"Once Upon a Time in America.\" That's the one about Jewish gangsters. And it's become a cult kind of picture. You know, there are people who follow that, like God knows. You see, including I have a friend of mine, Lugosi [sic], he's a wonderful actor plays Italians, mostly, he's a nice Jewish boy he likes that film, it's called \"Once Upon a Time in America,\" deals with Jewish gangsters from the '30s, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2000.85,2062.05"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/651","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e You can hardly tell them from the Italian. They're very American--he is a certain kind of American, Americanese. So a lot of that took place in Williamsburg. Actually, they hardly had to change anything. And I was booked to be in the background. And so I even have pictures of me, Hasidic and all that. And I even spoke to the people looking around. And one day I had--I worked as a cantor in Philadelphia in the Main Line, and I couldn't be there for the Sabbath, you know, because I have to work. I'm not saying if I would have or not, but I couldn't, I was working. So I told them, \"listen, I'm a cantor, I can't come\". So, all right, I had to report in Monday. I reported in on Monday, and one of the assistant directors came over and said, \"we understand you're a cantor, too.\" OK, \"well, we need a scene for a Jewish street singer.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2062.92,2119.93"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/652","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e So I said, OK, and one of the cast also was from Yiddish theater, Herschel Rosen, he is an old friend of mine. I knew him well. I told him about it. So he gave me a song and I checked with Seymour Rechzeit too, [\"inaudible phrase],\" you know, it's very funny, he says a father of seven orphans. Well, whatever. And so I became a street singer. And to this day, I still get residuals. My name is there, Mort Freeman, \"street singer.\" And I had a derby and I called from my, whatever I had from the theatrical thing, I would take off the derby and say, \"shenk dayne [inaudible],\" and I'd say \"[inaudible phrase],\" you know, there was--it was in the tenement housing, and when I took off the derby, there was a yamaka of course, you know, and the director of this was the director of the spaghetti westerns. His name was Sergio Leone. And one day they all came to a place where I performed for years, Sammy's Roumanian in the Lower East Side.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2123.11,2193.16"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/653","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e It's still there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2193.901,2193.923"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/654","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e It's still there and I still work from time to time. I used to be there regularly, but now I'm in Florida a lot for the winter. And one day Sergio Leone was there and Ed Asner was there from the president of the Screen Actors Guild, so I gave them both my Jewish album. What?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2194.39,2213.509"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/655","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e We should, no, we should send a crew down to Sammy's for an experience. They won't find that in California. But that's the only place you can learn what an egg cream is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2214.89,2220.901"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/656","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e And, yeah, [crosstalk] well there was a place that competed with it. And the very fascinating guys they [inaudible crosstalk].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2221.12,2227.26"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/657","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Where are you talking about? Oh, they just--yeah I read about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2227.94,2230.26"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/658","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e And they opened the place on the--which is very similar. But, you know what...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2230.33,2233.684"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/659","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e It's not the same.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2233.85,2234.16"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/660","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e ...if it's too elegant, no good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2235.109,2236.07"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/661","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e That's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2236.4,2236.58"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/662","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e People can go to the Smarny [sic] side if they want the elegant schmelegant. They love to come here in the dugout and they yell, you know, and leave their hairdown. We've met people from all over, people that I'd become friendly with, Billy Crystal and now my fans. So that's an extension of Yiddish vaudeville nightclub. There was a parallel Jewish nightclub.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2237.48,2259.213"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/663","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I mean, even recently, Robert Paul.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2259.78,2263.43"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/664","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e That's his friend. Yes. 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Now I remember--didn't you sing with him together at Sammy's?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2270.25,2274.33"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/668","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e For years. I mean it was my headquarters. That's right. And we had another one who sang for a while. But then he was always involved in opera.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2274.56,2282.57"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/669","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Bernie.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2283.71,2283.71"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/670","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Bernie Fitch his name, who was also a cantor. You know, he's a cantor. But, uh, now they got some other guy, Dubov [sic] now, from him to Raleigh [sic]. He was there with Fitch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2284.52,2295.59"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/671","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e So what happened with Fitch? 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These are important roles in Mozart and all kinds of things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2297.179,2334.019"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/673","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Does he do Hazzanus anymore?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2334.42,2334.526"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/674","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e I think he did--well, he had that tie in with some temple in Yonkers. It's--and he did the Rosh Hashanah there. And I think he still does, he's a good trained hazzan, I mean, he's a...you know, it's a little like Tucker and Tucker was a great guy...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2335.709,2355.09"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/675","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e But not quite the same voice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2355.101,2356.12"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/676","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e ...But you know something? I'll tell you what, no. And olev ha-sholom, listen, Tucker, when I go to the Lincoln Center area and I see a statue of his near the Met and he had the honor, the posthumous honor of being--the service was in the chapel. I mean, was in this stage of the Met. Right. You know. 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I mean, listen, it's not only Rosenblatt but, uh...what's the name? Moshe Koussevitzky was was among the greatest. All these were great. And this was an innate part of their upbringing. And the coloratura came naturally, not studied--I shouldn't say that...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2404.73,2428.71"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/683","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e I tend to agree with you, basically, the funny thing is I agree with you, but...what was the other film?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2428.81,2434.77"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/684","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, so this one, I still get residuals and I play the Yiddish, you know, a street singer. The other one was called \"Over the Brooklyn Bridge\" with Sid Caesar and Elliott Gould. What's her name is former husband, you know, Barbra Streisand. And part of the scenery took place in Sammy's. But I was not in that scene. There was a wedding in a shtiebel somewhere. And it was, you know, we hired a lot of people from Borough Park, and others, you know. Of course it was--there was a guy, a sort of artistic director himself who was orthodox. So, you know, it's like when you see \"The Dybbuk\" and a lot of these kids were Yeshiva kids. You know, \"The Dybbuk\" when they, the kids sang, it was made in Poland. And of course, they don't, they wouldn't film it on, wouldn't be on Shabbos and so on. 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What did you do on \"Eternal Light\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2537.559,2539.09"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/693","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e I sang. I did it with Bikel, once. 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You sing, you talk?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2561.1,2561.953"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/699","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e I sang.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2562.47,2562.59"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/700","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Just singing no talking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2563.01,2563.235"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/701","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Just singing. 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Background. I was in the background.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2614.95,2617.55"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/712","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e There are very few people who, certainly now, who we could talk to, who made a primary--I hate the word \"career\" in music--but devoted themselves to song as opposed to hazzanus and song on the side. I mean, to Yiddish song and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2618.66,2635.451"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/713","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, Yiddish song.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2635.459,2635.524"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/714","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e You mentioned Lazar Weiner and the niggun, but did you do anything with other art song repertoire such as Lazar Weiner's, the rest of his music or Golub, for example, or whatever, or how about the songs from...art songs, you know, Kunstlieder. Or mostly...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2637.08,2656.237"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/715","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Not too much, although my album does have that aspect and it's some...[crosstalk].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2656.79,2661.8"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/716","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e It's the kind of thing, for example, I'm thinking of somebody....[crosstalk].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2662.1,2664.671"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/717","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e ...like a certain artistry like...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2664.739,2665.298"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/718","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e ...I'm thinking of somebody like Sidor Belarsky.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2666.139,2667.373"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/719","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2670.03,2670.03"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/720","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e That kind of repertoire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2670.59,2671.07"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/721","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, some of it was his repertory, \"A Zemer\" was his repertory. And...but listen, I was an interpreter of various things. So, uh...now, strangely enough Bob Abelson was involved in the more \"art\" kind of material that [inaudible] did. And there were certain things that have a folk quality and there's one that I want to do. But, uh, you know, it reminds me of about Abe Ellstein. Abe Ellstein wrote a song that I did \"Mazl,\" [sings], you know, beautiful thing, great. And he also did [sings \"Yidl mitn fidl\"].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2672.56,2723.124"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/722","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e One day he wrote an ultra-modern type of opera. I don't know whether it was...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2724.16,2730.277"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/723","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e It was \"Golem.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2730.78,2730.78"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/724","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e \"Golem.\" With a fine singer. 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John Crane [sic]. City Center.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2739.07,2741.74"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/728","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no. Norman Atkins. He sang \"The Golem\" because he fit, he was big and so on. And it was so atonal and so this and that, I know he won an award for it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2742.18,2755.24"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/729","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, he won an award, nothing, it was a bomb, though wasn't it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2755.33,2757.78"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/730","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e [Crosstalk] It was a bomb, a disaster, and he didn't last much longer after that. I mean, unfortunately.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2758.22,2762.59"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/731","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Well the reviews are mixed, but look at reviews [crosstalk].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2763.67,2764.716"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/732","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e But you see, when you go to your roots the way...nothing...what...among the greatest of great songs in Yiddish, and I say art and folk and the whole thing is a nigun. It has that quality and Bugatch has that quality too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2766.68,2782.864"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/733","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you hear Belarsky perform?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2783.27,2784.17"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/734","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I even met him a number of times.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2785.1,2786.939"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/735","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e What did you think of his singing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2787.2,2787.77"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/736","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, he was very good in his field.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2789.32,2790.76"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/737","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBarry Serota:\u003c/strong\u003e Which was?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2791.87,2792.14"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/738","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e Jewish art, the Yiddish art song. You know, he sang [sings], \"Viglid,\" [crosstalk] Yampolsky.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2793.31,2805.909"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/739","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e Art songs, different styles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2808.792,2809.9"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/740","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMort Freeman:\u003c/strong\u003e You know what I mean? Now, I could sing some of those things. And in my album, when I do even the song, like \"Yam Lieder,\" that has--definitely has that art type of thing, you've heard \"Yam Lieder,\" yeah? It has that feeling. Um, but I see as far as I'm concerned, Belarsky was great in what he did. He had an inner depth that was fantastic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946#t=2810.74,2840.65"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/40283/file/111946/transcript/25046/annotation/741","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNeil Levin:\u003c/strong\u003e It's been wonderful hearing you and talking to you. 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