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They also discuss their relationship with their older sister, Goldie [Goldele] Mavlavsky (1923–1995), a celebrated cantorial singer of the post-holocaust period. 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Jacobs, Atlantic City, “Av Harachamim,” Avon Theater, Avramel Malavsky, B. F. 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And we’re going to talk about, number one, their father, Hazzan Shmuel Malavsky, and then, we will talk about the formation of the Malavsky Family Choir, and their mark and role in Jewish musical history.  How does that sound?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=15.0,40.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  Fine.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  So what can you tell us about your father, Hazzan Shmuel Malavsky?  He was born about 1893, I think?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  He was born in Russia, in Smyrna.  And as a little boy, they took him away from his family, ‘cause he had this wonderful voice.  And they took him all over Russia.  He traveled with other cantors and other children.  And that was his childhood. And so, when he — they called him “The Boy Wonder.”  And that’s when, at 17 — at 15, I think it was…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Fifteen","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=40.0,73.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRUTH:\u003c/strong\u003e …his mother died, and his father sent him away to America. And when he came to America, he met with Yossele Rosenblatt.  And Yossele Rosenblatt loved him so much that they became fast friends.  And he took him into his home — Yossele did — and gave him as, treated him as one of his children.  And they went everywhere together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=73.0,96.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  He was his protégé.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  His protégé.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  They made many records together.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  And that’s how they started.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And then he accompanied him on the, on some of the records.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN:  Right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And it was very…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  They harmonized together, they sounded beautiful.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And he sounded just like him.  Everything he did was, was patterned after Rosenblatt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=96.0,116.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  When he did take a position as a cantor?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Well, when he came to America, he was so young.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  He had many positions.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Then I think Mr. Rosenblatt, Yossele gave him people to see, and when he saw them, they loved him. They were, he, they made a Shabbos for him.  And then other people came to see him.  And then, they all started to ask for him.  And so, he started to travel, in America. And he went everywhere in America. And he went with Yossele and by himself. And there, everywhere there was a Jewish…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Community.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  …community, that’s where he would stop and sing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=116.0,154.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"`SEROTA:  I noted that he made some records early in his career for Columbia, like in the 1918, 1919.  And they listed Cantor Samuel Malavsky of Bath Beach.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah.  That’s where he was married.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  In Brooklyn.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  That must have been one of his first positions.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  And your mother was from…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE and 3:  Connecticut.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  …Connecticut.  And she was from a family of hazzanim, I recall.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE and 3:  Yes.  Her uncle was a hazzan.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  His name was Hillman?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Hazzan Hillman.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Moshe was his name?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Samuel Hillman.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Samuel.  Samuel Hillman?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Samuel.  I think it was Samuel Hillman.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Okay.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  We just called him Uncle Hillman, so we never even knew what his name was.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  But then they came and lived in Bath Beach.  That’s where they were married.  The shul in Bath Beach, the people of the, of the shul loved them so much, they made their wedding for them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=154.0,199.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  And Yossele Rosenblatt and his wife were their, were their \u003cINAUDIBLE — intifios?\u003e, for my mother and my father.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Mrs. Rosenblatt.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  I’m sorry I didn’t bring you the, the wedding gift that they gave my mother and father.  The candlesticks, written, inscribed with…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=199.0,216.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  We should have brought them with us.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  …from Mrs. Rosenblatt.  \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  I forgot.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  You told me a story once that your father and your mother were with the Rosenblatts at Coney Island on a roller coaster.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  My father had a wonderful sense of humor.  And he used to take all the hazzanim and the rabbis to Coney Island and put them on the Cyclone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=216.0,234.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE:  He wanted to hear their high notes.  So he put them on the Cyclone.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And he used to do that.  He used to take them everywhere — on picnics, and go up to the mountains, to the Catskills.  They did all that stuff.  And some of the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And he was the driver, in his Model-T Ford.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  And they had a good time, when they were young.  Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=234.0,253.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  When your father was a youngster, did he study music?  Did he study hazzanas with anybody?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Well, like I told you, they took him away.  From his family.  He drove through Israel — uh, through Russia.  And he spent his youth, I think, from six, seven years until he was 15 years old.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE :  But he was a boy soprano, then to a boy tenor, and he was singing all along, with all the hazzanim in Russia.  And he was…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=253.0,275.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  So, after he was in Bath Beach, do you know roughly where he — I imagine you know where he was, because each of you are born in a different city.  Where were you born?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  That’s true.  I was born in Detroit, Michigan.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  So he was a hazzan where in Detroit?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  I have no idea.  I was just born there.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  In a shul.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Okay.  And where are you born?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  In Baltimore, Maryland.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=275.0,291.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  So he was hazzan at Beth Tfiloh.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  He was a hazzan in Shmuel Rosenblatt, Shmuelie Rosenblatt’s shul.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  And you were born?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  I was born in Rosenhayn, New Jersey.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Princeton.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Princeton, New Jersey.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  So he was, I think, in Philadelphia at that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=291.0,305.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  Do you know what shul in Philadelphia?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  I think, I…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  It was the Walnut Street Shul?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  The Walnut Street Theater.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  Walnut Street.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah, Walnut Street.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  And you were…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  And he was in New York, too.  He had…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  He was in Borough Park? Bnei Yehuda I think was the shul.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Borough Park.  And my brother was born in Brooklyn.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Right.  And where was Goldie born?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Goldie was born in Philadelphia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=305.0,326.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  And your brother, your eldest brother, where was he born?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH and 1:  New Haven.  \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: When they got married, they went back to New Haven, ‘cause that’s where my mother is from.  And he got a position there, in the synagogue.  And they stayed there for a little while.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  He did her a favor and let her stay there for nine months.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=326.0,340.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  Then they went to Detroit, where Trudie was born.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  And your youngest brother?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Mort.  He was born in…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  In Brooklyn.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  In Brooklyn.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Right near the shul there, where Papa was.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Right near it.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  I see.  And wasn’t your father also for a time a cantor in San Francisco?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Oh, yes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yes.  We all moved to San Francisco when we were children.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=340.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE:  Another move.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah.  And…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  But we were youngsters, though.  We were all here, and all in one place.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Papa went there first.  And then he said, “Sell the house and come to San Francisco.”  He got a nice position. So we did all that and came by train.  And she got lost on the train, Mickey.  (indicates MINNIE)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=360.0,376.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  In Cheyenne, Wyoming.  We couldn’t find her.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Cheyenne, Wyoming.  We couldn’t find her.  The trains changed.  She got lost.  We had lots of experiences on the train. And we came to San Francisco.  And — Oakland.  And then, you had to take a ferry to San Francisco, at that time. And the president of the shul took us, met us, and took us.  And we had a beautiful house, and we loved San Francisco.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=376.0,398.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  Why did you leave?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Well, Papa…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Papa got another…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Trudie and Goldie (indicates TRUDIE) sing by themselves. They were singing as the Marlin Sisters. \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:   We were singing ourselves.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  They were singing Hillbillies.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Country music.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Gittele and Goldele.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And Yiddish songs.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Country music.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And when we got…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=398.0,416.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GILDAR:  And country Yiddish?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  We got an offer to do a radio show.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  To do the Keith Circuit.  The Keith Circuit.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Oh, the Keith Circuit first.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  And so…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  When did the Marlin Sisters begin?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  They were known as the Webber Sisters at that time.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  We were known as the Webber Sisters in California.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  And then, so Papa and Trudie and Goldie went on a train, all the way cross country, by themselves.  Because they had a, a, a thing that they might have a radio program…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  We had an offer to do a radio program in New York.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=416.0,441.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE:  So my father…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  As the Webber Sisters?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  As the, as the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  No.  ‘Cause they didn’t have the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  The Yiddish and American…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah. They didn’t name the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Under what name?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Cavalcade of Stars, it was called.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Oh, on MCA?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And Harry Hirschfeld…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Yeah?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=441.0,452.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  …was the emcee.  And we were standing in the room, he says, “What’s your name?”  Well, we said we didn’t have a name that we were going to attach to this particular show.  This, and Sam Medoff was the conductor, and they had — and Henny Youngman was the comedian, at that time, on the show.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  He just passed away.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  I know.  And everybody…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE and 3:  \u003cINAUDIBLE\u003e.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  So he looked outside.  And there was a billboard outside that said “Marlin Razor Blades.”  So Harry Hirschfeld says, “The Marlin Sisters will now sing.”  And that’s…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Was this on MCA, WMCA?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  This was MGM.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  MGM.  Okay.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And then…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=452.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  But the, but the story about it, is they went on the train across country.  And they went in the wintertime.  And all the soldiers were coming home from, you should pardon the expression, the war. And that’s how long ago.  so, they, they were on the train, and the soldiers were rowdy. They were missing their holiday…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Christmas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=480.0,501.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  …holiday time, Christmas.  So the, the father, my father got really upset that the girls were there and the boys were making eyes at the girls, and he was nervous. He was alone on the train with two young, pretty girls. So in the middle of the night, he said, “The only thing you can do to keep the boys quiet is to sing.”\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  So we sang all the carols.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  So they sang all the Christmas carols, to try to help the boys, they should quiet down and go to sleep.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  And they did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=501.0,524.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  And they, as soon as they fall asleep, Papa took the two girls out and was, he was constant.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  In some forsaken town, I still don’t remember the name of it.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Racine, Wisconsin, or something.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Someplace like that.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  In the middle of the night.  So he shouldn’t have to worry about the boys bothering the girls.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=524.0,541.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  So this was during the war years?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  It’s after the war.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  After.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Right after the war.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  So the Marlin Sisters were then organized right after the war — ’45…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  No, about — it was later than that.  It was about…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  …’50…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  …49, something like that.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  ’50.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  And when did the Malavsky family first start singing together as a family choir?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=541.0,560.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  Oh, in San Francisco.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  We had one Yontif in San Francisco.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  When?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  When we — I was 12, and she was, she’s younger.  And my father had this shul that wanted to hear the girls sing.  So we went and we davenned.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  But we used to sing Zmires every Friday around the table, too. That’s how we started.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  That’s how we started to sing.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Did you harmonize?  I guess…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  We always…natural harmonies.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  …improvised harmonies?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  And all the neighbors would be outside listening, with the windows open.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=560.0,586.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  Natural harmonies.  Natural harmonies.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  And your father taught you the melodies?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  The melody and the words.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  We followed him, we harmonized.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And we learned all our compositions that way, sitting at the table.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  And driving in the car, from one state to another.  We had no place to go, so we had to sing.  So we shouldn’t fight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=586.0,601.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  And so, after the girl were accepted, Papa said, New York is the place for, you know, for choirs, and for the hazzanim.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  So this is when, you began, the two girls were singing with your father…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  …in San Francisco.  Do you know what shul it was?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  The 25th Street Shul.  That’s all…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  The 25th Street Shul, in the Richmond section…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah.  I don’t…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=601.0,619.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  …of San Francisco.  And Rabbi Fischel was the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  But you see, the girls took a theater tour across.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  We didn’t, we didn’t come across singing.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  She didn’t, they came, and they stopped in every city to sing.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  We came across town, across the United States…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Country.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  …singing Hillbilly songs.  Country music.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  That was during the war years.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And then we stopped at the, remember we stopped at the Grand Ole Opry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=619.0,640.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE:  And Pop, Pop was Backstage Pop.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  They all called him “Backstage Pop.”\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Now, I thought that the Malavsky Family Choir, singing together with Hazzan Malavsky, really began right as, as the war was concluding.  And I recall seeing an album that you made for Moe Asch in 1946.  And it’s unlike any other album, because, in the picture of the Malavsky family, there are not six children, but only five.  Because your youngest brother didn’t come back from the service yet.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  That’s right.  No.  My brother was in the service.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Yes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  My older brother was in the Navy, and my younger brother was in the Army.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=640.0,677.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  And, and was in Bakersfield, California, so he couldn’t be with us.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  We davenned one Yontif in Brooklyn.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  In Brooklyn.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Where?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Eastern Parkway.  We had to rent a theater.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Yeah?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  An Eastern Parkway theater.  And we sang there without my brother, Morty.  Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=677.0,692.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  So was that the first time that you davenned together as a family since San Francisco?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah.  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Our big rehearsals were in San Francisco for our…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  …for our San Francisco Yontiffs.  But so we all knew what we were doing.  But didn’t have, Morty wasn’t with us, ‘cause he was in the Army.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=692.0,707.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  Was your father looking for a shul?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Sure.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  They were looking for him, and he was looking for them.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  What happened?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Well, we had a lot of opposition, because of his, of the girls.  We were four, and we were very pretty at that time.  And they didn’t like the girls up on the bima.  And…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Right now, it’s a whole different world.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  We had a couple of — we made, when we first, all got together in New York, we made 150,000 miles in one car, going from city to city.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And especially Montreal, Canada.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=707.0,733.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  Montreal and Schenectady.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  They were our biggest fans.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Albany, and we went to…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Toronto.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  …Buffalo and Toronto.  We did theater in Toronto.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  We went from Florida to Winnipeg, Canada in one day.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  And, and…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  It’s 80 degrees to 16 below zero.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  Mmm!\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  And the car showed it.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And the car…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  So the first High Holidays in the East was on Eastern Parkway in a theater?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  How did you do?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  We did everything.  We were in charge.  It was our gig, so to speak.  So we sold tickets, and did everything — advertised.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Filled up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=733.0,763.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE:  And it was very nice.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Did you have any problems with the community?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Mmm, no, no.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  We had problems with the yeshiva.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  We had with the yeshiva.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  We had one young man that was from the P.M. newspaper, or whatever.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  It was an old newspaper.  And he fell in love with one of my sisters.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Goldie.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  So he was, he was all there the time, and advertising us.  And he helped us quite a bit.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  The only problem we had was with the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  The yeshiva bukhers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=763.0,787.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  …they didn’t want the girls to sing to daven.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  We couldn’t go in the shuls, so we…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Here, we spent our whole life learning how to daven, learning the compositions, learning the Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur, Pesach, and Shabbosim and everything else, and they wouldn’t let us daven.  Because we were girls.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=787.0,800.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  See, you know, a father doesn’t look at his children as just girls.  We were talented. First, Goldie sang.  First of all, Goldie and Papa sang.  Goldie, he, Goldie had her own radio program, she was six years old.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Hmmm.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  And she was out of Philadelphia, where she was born.  And he used to accompany her on the piano.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=800.0,819.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE:  She sang, sang like a…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Every week she had a program.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  …a big cantor.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Your father could play piano?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yes.  And so he took Goldie and he took her all through the country, as a eight, nine, ten, 11-year-old girl.  All by himself.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  She was the first woman…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:    And she went everywhere with him.  She was the, the first female hazzante.  We used to fight about that with the other hazzantes, but Goldie was the first.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Who did you fight with?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Well, amongst ourselves.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  I see.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  No, they thought Fraydele Oysher, and they thought that there was…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  Bal Shedrock.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  There was Shayndele…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Shayndele.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Shayndele Hazzante.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  But Goldie was really the first.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=819.0,853.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  Goldie was really the first, ‘cause she was very little.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eINTERVIEWER 3:  Pereleh Feig was later, wasn’t she?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  But Goldie sang Habayn Yakele when she was this big.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eINTERVIEWER 3:  I remember when you were at the New Irvington in Lakewood.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Oh, my.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eINTERVIEWER 3:  That’s a few years, remember?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  That’s why we had to go to hotels.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eINTERVIEWER 3:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  They wouldn’t let us in shuls. What happened to us, we made one big concert — a lot of concerts — but one, this one concert in Eastern Parkway.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  In Crown Heights.  Crown Heights.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Eastern Parkway, Crown Heights.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Or was it the Eastern Parkway Jewish Center?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  And the young Hassidim there, in that neighborhood, threw stink bombs in the shul.  And we were davenning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=853.0,885.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE:  Imagine.  By the Torah.  On the, on the pulpit.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  And you’re supposed to…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  And, and the stink bombs came up, with smoke.  And my mother is standing behind, in the back of the room, and they were coming after — these young Yeshiva bukhers — and they wanted to tear their clothes.  But my mother went like this — “Leave them alone.  Leave them alone.” And they got out of the shul, and she saved them.  And they did such a terrible thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=885.0,912.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  So I imagine thereafter, you probably sang in synagogues that weren’t Orthodox.  Did you sing in shuls?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Well…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  No.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  \u003cinaudible\u003e They were not allowed to hear a woman sing.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  No, we just went to hotels.  We went to the Concord, we went to Grossinger’s.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  So we got out of the shuls, we got out of the temple.  And we…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  When were you at Grossinger’s?  On, like, for a concert you were there?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  It was a, Trudie and Goldie used to sing there a lot.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=912.0,929.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE:  On the Borscht Circuit.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Yeah?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  And we went on the Borscht Circuit.  We went to the Flagler.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  But you didn’t, you didn’t…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  We stayed the Flagler.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  We did Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur and Peshach.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Yes.  Flagler, the Nevele.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eINTERVIEWER 3:  I did a Rosh Hashanah at the Flagler.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  All those.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And the Flagler.  Yeah.  We did all that.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  Were you educated in day schools, Jewish day schools type…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  No, Papa taught.  But we went to cheder after school.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  But there was no such thing.  You didn’t go to a parochial type of school.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  No, no.  We were home taught.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Papa taught us everything.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  We were home taught.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eINTERVIEWER 3:  Honor of the flag like…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Musically, too, Papa taught us.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  ‘Cause you were on the go so much, how did you have time for your studies?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eINTERVIEWER 3:  In Atlantic City…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  We used to get excuses.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=929.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"INTERVIEWER 3:  In Atlantic City, in Atlantic City.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  In Atlantic City, too, right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eINTERVIEWER 3:  Jack Bar…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Barsky?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eINTERVIEWER 3:  Barsky.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  That’s his name.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  His name is Jack Barsky.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  All right.  So you sang mostly in hotels.  When you were at Grossinger’s, that was for concerts?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah.  They hired us for the weekend, you know.  A Saturday night concert.  Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=960.0,978.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSEROTA:\u003c/strong\u003e Years ago, I spoke to Jack Barris.  And he told me, of all of the performers that he worked with in the Jewish field, particularly in the late ‘40s and the ‘50s, there was no performer or group of performers that made an impression on an audience like the Malavskys.  What did the Malavsky family sing on a concert?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=978.0,1000.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  We had a very unique style.  We have, because Gitte and Goldie being the Marlin Sisters, we had a two-section concert.  We used to open up with Mishos Nissim (?), our favorite song, our lead song.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Liturgicals, we wore our rassis.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  We wore rassis.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  And yarmulkes.  And came out to sing a few liturgical songs, we started.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  We sang three, four songs, and Papa spoke…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Told a few, a few stories.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  ‘Cause he was very…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Wonderful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1000.0,1029.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  …wonderful, with his speaking to the audience.  He had a rapport with everybody.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  He was a stand-up hazzan.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  He would tell a little bit about the family.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  He used to tell family things which everyone could relate to.  The arguments that we had.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  And they saw young people.  We were very, we were, happened to have been a very handsome family. And when we finished our few numbers, then we used to go off.  And then, my older brother Al — Avramel — he used to come on and say a couple of jokes.  He’s so handsome and tall.  So all the women in the audience loved him, and everybody loved him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1029.0,1062.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE:  While they took off the robes and the yarmulkes…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  And they had their dresses on.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  …and they had nice dresses on.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  And they came out and did the Marlin Sisters.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  We did our Marlin shtick.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Sang a few numbers.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  And then they came off, and we came back on to finish the program.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And then the girls had the same dresses that we had.  So we were just in dresses.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  The four of us were dressed alike.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1062.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  Did your father sing any pieces of hazzanas by himself, or he just sang with the choir, with the family, cantor solos?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  No.  Within our compositions, he had solos, of course.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Like when we sang Nussif Hashem Aleichem, he had a whole hazzanishe shtickel, you know.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Like we would be davenning.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Like we would be on the, like we would be in, in shul, davenning on the bima, he would do his thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1080.0,1103.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  Whose music did he use?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Mostly his own.  Mostly his…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Did he get music from anybody else?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Sometimes we took Yossele Rosenblatt’s Mi Shebeirach, and we would sing that.  And it was a very difficult piece.  Very, very difficult.  But we learned it, and we did it. And he would bring memories from, from home that he used to do from his, from his old shtetls where he used to daven.  But mostly, he wrote all his own compositions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1103.0,1126.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  Now, \u003cSOUNDS LIKE Kima Korus\u003e you sing, like, from Yossele.  And \u003cSOUNDS LIKE Yafo Yamis Chaven\u003e on Yom Kippur was Yossele’s.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  That was, that was Mi Shebeirach.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Yeah.  And we did, he did mostly his own compositions.  And if he, if he took something else from somebody else, he would always intermingle with something of his own.  With just the familiar refrain of someone else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1126.0,1147.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE:  We were so thrilled, because many nights, when we gave concerts, on a Sunday night especially, and we filled up the auditorium.  So my father used to say, “I’m glad you came to see us instead of Ed Sullivan.”  Because at that time, Ed Sullivan…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eINTERVIEWER 3:  Ed Sullivan was really popular.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  …was, and we, it was, thought it would be a little competition.  But never.  Never.  It was always a packed house.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1147.0,1170.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  Papa used, he, he used to tell everybody, he says, “See?  You people came to see a nice concert.  You’re warm, in, in the wintry days.”  He says, “Now you go home to your nice, warm houses, and we have to get in our car and go traveling back home on the slippery icy ways.”  And that’s what we did.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  Did you ever sing secular music on the concert?  Besides the Yiddish or hazzanas.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  What kind?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  Secular music.  Did you ever sing O Sole Mio, or…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Oh, no.  Our concerts…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1170.0,1196.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GILDAR:  …strictly Jewish material.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  All our concerts were advertised as Hazzan Malavsky and his Family Choir doing hazzanish.  And the people who hired us, and the organizations that would…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  They stipulated Jewish material, period.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  …stipulated only hazzanish.  They didn’t even want Goldie and me to sing our shticklach, what, we sang English, a couple of English songs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1196.0,1214.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GILDAR:  Because as you know, today, the concert of today is Broadway, opera.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  I know.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  Everything you can imagine.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  The rabbi and the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  If I was going to a hazzanishe concert, I wouldn’t want to see the opera.  I would want to hear hazzanish.  I can go to the opera for opera.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  Right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  What do I have to go hazzanish?  I happen to love hazzanish.  So I…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  And what kind of work did the Marlin Sisters do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1214.0,1233.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  Well, we made many, many records.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  We did a radio show.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  We did one record that became very, very big.  And we didn’t, we did a demo of this record — Tooley, Ooley, Dooley.  Long, long time ago.  And…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  And they were paid a little bit — nothing.  ‘Cause…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And we were paid nothing, like for a demo.  For a demonstration record.  And then, we went away.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Then we went to Florida.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  We went on a concert tour.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Then, all of a sudden, we hear…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1233.0,1253.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  I’m walking through, through the street there, on Collins Avenue somewhere, and I hear Tooley, Ooley, Dooley — the one we made.  And they sold that demo, ‘cause it was so good.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  And it sold a million copies.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And they called us “The Polka Debs.”\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  And the girls didn’t…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  They didn’t use our name.  Polka Debs.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  But they didn’t make a penny out of it.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  So you sang under quite a few different names.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  We sang under many different names.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Oh!\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And we sang with Frank Yankovic, the, the polka king.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Accordion player.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  As the Marlin Sisters.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  As, as Polka Debs.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Polka Debs.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  There were some records at Columbia you made, I think, with Frank Sinatra?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Well, I did that with a different chorus.  I was, I, after…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1253.0,1288.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  See, Trudie, as we got older, so Trudy started to sing with the choir, with the Ray Charles Singers.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  But not the.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Not the — the piano player, the Ray Charles Singers.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  The Ray Charles Chorus.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  And he was the musician behind Perry Como.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  He was the musical director for…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  So Trudy did Perry Como for ten years.  She did that show.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  I did just the show.  I was in the chorus.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  And we had to make our concerts so she wouldn’t conflict with her dates.  And they had the radio program, so we couldn’t conflict with their dates.  So wherever we were, the girls had to fly home or go to the radio station.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1288.0,1323.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  How often were you on the radio?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Every week.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Yeah, every Sunday afternoon.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Perry Como used to tell her, when it came the holidays, “Goodbye, Gittele.”  He used to say, “I’ll see…”.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  He used to sing Kol Nidre, Perry Como.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Oh, yes.  He, he was very cognizant of the religious holidays.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  We were speaking before about the movie you made.  Can you tell us about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1323.0,1345.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  The family?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  With Mr. Seidman.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Yeah, yeah.  We made a movie with the family. That’s when we first came to New York.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  When we were first in New York.  So I don’t know who approached us for the movie.  And he made arrangements for us to come in.  And we made — we were just youngsters at the time.  And we made a picture of singing Zmires…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  \u003cinaudible\u003e What was his name?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  …with the whole family sitting around the table.  And today, how poorly that picture was made, it’s still being shown in Miami, and people stand to see that picture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1345.0,1376.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  So you sing zmires there?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE and SISTER #:  We sing zmires.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Unesaneh Tokef?  You sing, Tsena, Tsena in Yiddish?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Oh, right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  And your brothers are dressed up in your father’s short-sleeved shirts, holding…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  We were all dressed up as farmers.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Farmers. Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Dressed up.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  And we’re country girls.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  That was Israeli.  We made like, we call ourselves “The Singers of Israel.”","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1376.0,1396.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  And then we finally did become the Singers of Israel, in Israel.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  So Papa came to us, and he said, “Children, since New York has, has accepted you, I’m going to Israel, and we have to see how Israel should accept us. Everybody was going back and forth to Israel.  So they made, in 1952, they made a trip for us to Israel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1396.0,1418.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE:  It was beautiful.  A beautiful experience.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  So we worked, we made two, three concerts a day.  We worked so hard, we all lost weight.  Well, now…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  The audience came in, and we sang, they went out.  An audience came in, and we sang, and…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  And, and really…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Two, three concerts a night.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  …they loved us so much.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  And they brought the young children and the children of Israel, the parents could never get them to go anywhere with them.  So they were able to bring the children to see young children singing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1418.0,1446.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  ‘Cause it was the first time they had all generations of Israelites to see us.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Especially Goldie.  Goldie was…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  And Goldie, they kept saying, “Goldie Malavsky stay here, and Goldie Meir should go home.”  And…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  They loved her, they fell in love with her.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  …they loved her.  They used to follow us around the streets, and “Geveret Gittie, Geveret Goldie,” — it was just beautiful.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  I understand that your father really did not want to appear anywhere without the family.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  That’s right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  However, he did daven a Shabbos or two in Israel.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah. In the big shul.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  In the big shul, in Tel Aviv.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  In Tel Aviv.  They wouldn’t let the girls in.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  They wouldn’t let us be his choir.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  So my brothers went to help, to be near him.  Yeah.  They went to the big temple in Israel.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Some of the hazzanim, too, from Israel.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  They who know all our, our compositions.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  They all stood with him.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  They all stood with him, and they were his choir.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  And then, the army loved — what was the song that Goldie sang?  The, the…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1446.0,1499.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  Haben Yakir Li?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  They made the marching song.  They used to sing Goldie’s…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Haben Yakir Li, I think.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Haben Yakir Li, Akiva Kuras, one of those.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  One of those.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  And they used to, they made that as their famous marching song.  So it was very nice. We had a wonderful time in Israel.  But we had a car accident, so we had a, a lot of recuperating to do.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And we still had an act to do.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  In Israel?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  In Israel, yeah.  And…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1499.0,1526.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  We missed one concert in, in…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: …38, 39 weeks.  \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: How many weeks was it?  Nine weeks, nine weeks of concerts, we only missed one.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  And we didn’t take a penny money for that, everything.  All our clothes, we left for the people.  For the girls and whoever wanted it….  We left our clothes and our everything.  We didn’t take a penny money from the group who hired us there.  They just paid expenses.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1526.0,1551.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSEROTA:\u003c/strong\u003e When you made your recordings, the first bunch that were made, for Moe Asch, for Disk, I think Saslavsky is the organist.  Then you made records for Banner, with Seymour Rechtzeit, and I think Ellstein is on most of them.  And then, the ones with the Marlin Sisters and Nat Spencer, otherwise known as Shprin Senna, are with Sammy Medoff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1551.0,1576.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  But we, well, we made the records with Dave Tarras, also.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Dave Tarras.  We made a whole album with him.  I can’t find where that album is.  Someone asked about it.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  But, but we came to New York, though, because we, we went to the theater.  Because they didn’t allow us in the shul.  So we sang in the Yiddish theater for many years.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  We sang in Clinton Street Theater.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  In Clinton Street Theater.  And…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Your father sang with you in the theater?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1576.0,1599.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  Well, we used to go, you should pardon the expression, on Friday and Saturday afternoon.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  But Papa wouldn’t go on Shabbos.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  So Papa came after Shabbos was over, he used to come for a Saturday night.  And we had four shows on Sunday.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  On Sunday.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And Goldie and I had a show in the morning on MGM radio.  So we used to do…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  They used to go crazy for us.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  This was Delancey Street, and Clinton Theater.  And around the corner, I used to buy the pickles from the jar.  The big barrels.  And the sweet potatoes.  And go in and see the Yiddish show.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1599.0,1629.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  We really had to learn how to speak Yiddish.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Right.  ‘Cause we saw the Jewish movies.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  We went upstairs in the balcony and sat and ate baked potatoes while we watched all the old Jewish movies.  And that’s how we…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  I came, became familiar with all the old Jewish stars and all the movies.  And I learned the language.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  And I was dancing with Sam Leder, Sam… ach!  In Rumania.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Aaron Lebedoff.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Aaron Lebedoff.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Aaron Lebedoff was with us.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  We were watching him from behind stage, and his partner didn’t show up, so he pulled me on the stage.  And I’m dancing with Lebedoff.  It was such a beautiful experience.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  We had a lot of good times there.  We had a lot of fun in the theater.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1629.0,1666.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE:  A lot of fun in the theater.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And we learned a lot, too, how — stage presence.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Who was Harry Cooper?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  He was an organist, a wonderful organist. Fabulous. He could play anything that we wanted and he played like an orchestra. When he got on that organ it was the greatest sound in the world. It sounded like twenty people playing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1666.0,1685.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA: He played for you on a record you made for ABC Records that was produced by Abe Lyman. \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  …that was produced by Abe Lyman.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Oh, my.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  You remember Abe Lyman?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Yeah, I remember the name very well.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  You remember anything about him?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Not really.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Goldie told me once that when you made that record, she recorded Haben Yakir Li, she was expecting, then.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  At that time.  1957, I think, or ’56.  Something like that.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  You have a good memory.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1685.0,1720.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  Her first daughter.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Her first daughter, her first daughter.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Of all the accompanists that you worked with, who was the most capable?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  I think Jack Barrish.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Jack Barrish?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Joe Barsch?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Joe Barsch was good.  Joe Barsch.  We used to confuse — we had a wonderful accompanist, Joe Barsch.  He also played like an orchestra.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1720.0,1743.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  We used to always look for an, a pianist that would, that would accompany us and make us, you know, not, not play with one finger, like someone timid.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  The music was kind of hard to read.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  You know, not a timid — Joe, Jack Barrish was a wonderful accompanist…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Yes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  …but he was not as gregarious as Joe Barsch was.  He was a little timid.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1743.0,1762.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  How was Medoff?  Sammy Medoff.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  He’s great.  He was such a musician.  Dick Manning was his…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  He wrote music for Loretta Young.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  He wrote music for…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1762.0,1770.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  He could do anything.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  He used to call me and my sister “A Clolfin Music.”  A Clol — that means a well of music.  Anything he’d play, we would remember and see the words.  She had an incredible memory for words.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  What did you think of Ellstein?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  He’s great.  He used to accompany Yossele Rosenblatt.  He went to Europe with him, didn’t he?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  As a youngster.  He was a young person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1770.0,1792.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  Yes.  Very young.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  He worked with you also?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Yes.  I made this record with him, the album that Goldie and I made with Dave Tarras.  They, Abie Ellstein was the pianist.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  The girls had a contract with Columbia Records.  Was it Columbia Records?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Oh, yeah.  Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1792.0,1811.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  And all of a sudden, the manager or whatever came over to her…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Oh. Manny Sacks.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  And he said to them, “We have a young person, a young man here that we want to try to give a…”\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  A break.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  “A break.”\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And what he was…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  “But we can’t put him in anywhere, we can’t make a record session for him alone.  Would you mind if he does one side of your record?”\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  No, no.  \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: We were doing My Happiness.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Yes.  And he can fill in when the music is playing.  Instead of the music, let his voice be in.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And it says on the record, it says, “The Marlin Sisters with Eddie Fisher.”","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1811.0,1844.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSEROTA:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh!  We have here a document that we will film.  This is the cover of an album.  You made records for, as we mentioned before, the family made records for Disk — that’s Moe Asch’s company — and for Banner and for Tikvah, with Mr. Alan B. Jacobs.  Right? And now, this was a record that came out on Menorah.  And it’s got a few numbers.  It has one number with your father, Ribono Olam, that he made many years before.  Then he has a few numbers, I think, with the family.  And I don’t remember who sang the solo on Yismach Moshe and Av Harachamim.  And then it has a few numbers taken from a live service.  Maybe in one of the hotels.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1844.0,1885.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  Oh, yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  We did that.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  \u003cINAUDIBLE\u003e.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  We did a service.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  I think your brother sent me a tape from a Yom Kippur.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  With the sounds of the audience.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  And your father speaks before the beginning of the musaf.  So he says his daughters sing for Osher Ve Chovot.  When they sing with Ray Charles, they are Osher; when they sing with Malavsky, they are Chovot.  Because he didn’t pay, I guess.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Well.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Well, it was worth every minute of it, whatever it was.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah.  We had a wonderful time together.  Really did.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Monetary value didn’t mean a thing to us.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  If we sang, if we did a good concert, and we were all good, that meant everything in the world to us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1885.0,1929.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  When we heard — we had a buzz, a special buzz.  When you get that buzz — I mean, not very many people get it.  And it meant a lot to us.  To, we used to hear it.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  When did the family stop singing together?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Well, as soon as we started to get married.  When you start to get married, all the in-laws start to, the spouses start to pull away, and pull us away, and, and didn’t like us to travel anymore, and they wanted us to be home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1929.0,1954.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  My brother got, my brother got married…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  …and his wife didn’t want him to travel.  So he couldn’t…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  So it was very difficult.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Which brother?  Your elder brother or younger?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Older brother.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  My older brother didn’t, they didn’t…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  My younger brother met his wife in the New Irvington Hotel, where we, where we did many, many years of work in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1954.0,1969.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  That’s why we moved to Lakewood.  We moved to Lakewood because the hotel was in Lakewood, and we were living in Brooklyn at the time.  And…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  This was going to be a long, long thing.  Many, many years.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  We decided to move to Lakewood so we don’t have to travel back and forth.  We’ll be right close to the hotel.  And that’s why we stayed in Lakewood.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  You lived in Borough Park, right?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  We used to…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  We lived in Borough Park then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1969.0,1992.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  When we were young kids, we used to come into a weekend, and they were doing weddings at that time.  They had all these buildings with the weddings.  They had five floors of weddings. So we used to go in at 8:00 on Shabbos night, as soon as this was oy Shabbos, go in the first floor, and we used to go up five floors and do five ceremonies.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  I used to sing Because…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  She used to sing Because.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  …she was singing, Goldie was singing, getting ready to do the Ve Malle…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1992.0,2015.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE:  And we walked with candles.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And we were walking down the aisle with the candles.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  We had a unique service that we did.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  And we also had a speech for the rabbi, it should be only 15 minutes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  You know, I imagine there must be some people that have recordings of their wedding ceremonies as sung by the Malavsky Family.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Wouldn’t that be interesting to hear.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2015.0,2030.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  Probably.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: I wouldn’t be surprised.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  I will have to be on the look-out for that.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Oh, that would be very interesting.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  I’m sure they do.  As a matter of fact, I remember one couple especially, several, they had the video.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  They want it fast.  They want it done fast.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  They wanted sound and everything\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  Films…films.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  They wanted it forever, for posterity.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  They wanted their weddings done fast, so we made a speech for the rabbi, and…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  We did the whole ceremony like in 17 minutes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2030.0,2049.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GILDAR:  Unfortunately, some of those early films were 8-millimeter, and they were silent.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  So you only had the visual.  You had the silent hazzan.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Yeah, but they did have mics and everything there.  They had the people working.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  Well, that would have been recorded, probably, on a separate tape machine for the audio portion.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Maybe on a, yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Of all the recordings your father made, what was his favorite?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  His favorite?  \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Of all the plants that you plant in the garden, which is your favorite?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2049.0,2072.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  Well, sometimes you like the geranium better than others.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Oh.  He, he, every, every…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  I think his, the RCA Victor record of Shmickel Bichas, I think, is…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  I think that he did, he does…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Haben Yakir Li.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  I think Lekhah Dodi — no, that he does Mizmor Shir le-Yom HaShabbat like nobody else in the world.  I, that’s one of my favorites, if you want to have a favorite.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  His breath control was fantastic.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Of all the selections that the family sings, what’s your favorite?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  That’s very difficult…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2072.0,2104.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  Tivi’einu.  We have a Tivi’einu that is unbelievable.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  This is from Slichas.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  But you can make a symphony out of it.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  We used to sing Tikku and Tivi’einu.  It was…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And Tikku Bakhodesh Shofar.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  …I mean, just Papa’s — it was unbelievable.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And he wrote all of these.  That’s why we love it.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  I’d like to make a symphony sometime of them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2104.0,2121.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  Well, let me ask you, before we finish, would you, do you think we could sing a little something here?  And maybe my friend Cantor Gildar could accompany you extemporaneously?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  It’s so difficult.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  We can just fool around a little bit a few minutes.  Is that possible?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Do you got a tenor?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  The cantor plays music. How about Tikku Bakhodesh Shofar…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  That’s too…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Well, why don’t you sing something, and we’ll, we’ll harmonize, and we’ll…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2121.0,2150.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  They used to compare us to the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  Maguire?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  …the people from The Sound of Music.  The…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  Trapp?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2150.0,2177.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  …Trapp Family.  But you see, the Trapp Family were intermarriages, and we were not.  We were just one family. There was a story that my father used to tell that there were once in, in Russia, there was this rich, very wealthy man being taken in his carriage.  And he was being taken for a, a trip.  And his, his cart got caught in the snow.  In the mud, in the snow.  And they… And they couldn’t get him out.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Could not put that horse out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2177.0,2209.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRUTH:\u003c/strong\u003e They could not get him out.  He tried everything.  He had a horse from Arabia, and he had a horse from all over the — every horse was a different country.  And he couldn’t get him out. 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They picked up all those, the wagon, and the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  The whole wagon and the horses.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  So he says, “How can that happen?” He said, “Because they’re from all over the world, and they, they’re not together.  We’re one family.”","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2223.0,2244.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  These two little horses were brothers.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  They’re brothers.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And they can pull anything.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eINTERVIEWER 3:  They pull in the same direction.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  They can pull you out.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  We must have been, we felt what we sang.  When we sang, it was a…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  We were unbelievable.  We just stared at each other’s faces.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  It’s like — she talks about a buzz.  I used to get a buzz that goes right to my head when we hit a certain chord.  Because that was the same sound. In fact, when we used to call my mother on the phone, she used to say, “Okay, I give up.  Who is it?”","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2244.0,2266.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"INTERVIEWER 3:  You girls made a beautiful…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  She never knew.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eINTERVIEWER 3:  …Yismechu, didn’t you?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  That brings back memories.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2266.0,2293.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  Papa, Papa used to go like this — and the voices would come.  He never had to fight with us or coax us.  It was, we were just there.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  You know, I’d open up the refrigerator and I’d start singing.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  I have a cute, a cute little thing to say. When we were traveling in the car, all of us.  So we’re traveling, we come to a viaduct.  So when we’re singing, we all stop — you know how the radio goes off on the, under a viaduct?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Now, it doesn’t.  It used to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2293.0,2319.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE:  It used to.  So we would all be singing, and we’d come to the viaduct, nobody says anything.  And we go, and we’re singing again.  But they all knew it had to stop when we came under the bridge.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  When Papa conducted us, just one, one flick of his finger, and we knew exactly what he wanted.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  And, and her and I were very high sopranos. And, and we had a signal. If, when we finished a song, if she squeezed my little finger, I hit the high note. And if I went like this to her, she hit the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  I knew she couldn’t do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2319.0,2347.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH: She ate the pickle.  \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: If she had a pickle before or a sweet potato, got stuck in her throat. \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: These are little signals that we know what to do.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Hmmm.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  And like Papa.  One snap — we knew.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  But I tell you, Goldie, Goldie was really the heart of our choir.  She, you could hear her above everybody.  She had the greatest alto voice of any young woman.  I, she, you would think she was a boy.  When she was a young kid…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2347.0,2376.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  She does a Haftorah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  She does a Haftorah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  She made a record with \u003cINAUDIBLE\u003e and the Haftorah.  \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: And the bar mitzvahs.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  To teach boys Haftorah, she made the record for that.  She was absolutely great. And when we used to sing for Yontiff, she used to turn around and, and put her…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Into the aron kodesh.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  …fall into the aron kodesh.  So people used to start to cry.  It was amazing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2376.0,2399.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE:  At the top of their lungs they would cry, because she was so, she was so emotional that they, they used to…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Here’s a picture of Goldie from a record album that features Goldie and the Malavsky family.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  That’s A Life to Remember.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Okay.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  How did your father get along with his colleagues?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Oh, they loved…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2399.0,2417.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  Aside from Yossele.  Yossele was like his…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  They were his buddies.  They were…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  …his buddy.  But aside from Yossele, how did he get along with Hirschmann, Kwartin?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Well, he was always traveling so much.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  He was with us.  He gave, he gave a lot up.  You see, sometimes, people say that Papa used us…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Gave up a lot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2417.0,2436.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  …and gave — but I think Papa gave up an awful lot to just sing with his children.  He would have been more famous and more well-known…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  In the opera.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  …if he had stayed.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  He would have been in the opera.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  He could have done his \u003cSOUNDS LIKE Von Di Vishimayos and INAUDIBLE\u003e.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  He could have done, he could have been better off in his career without us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2436.0,2454.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE: We stopped him. We stopped him.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: He loved us with our, the way we looked, the way we sounded. It was unique. It was unique. When he came home and told his uncles or his cousins that he’s got a little girl that sings, they thought he was crazy. Then he came back and he says, “I have a second daughter who sings.” They thought he was nuts. \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR: [INAUDIBLE]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2454.0,2474.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRUTH:\u003c/strong\u003e Then all of a sudden, his older son stepped in. His older, my older brother stayed with him when he grew up as a, you know, with Papa.  And he was always with him, davenning with him. So he was there with him. But as the girls came. So then my father came back and he said, “You know, I’m, my other young children can sing, too.” So everybody laughed at him. They thought it was a funny thing. How can one family sing like that?  But we did. It was just a unique thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2474.0,2500.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GILDAR:  Rosenblatt gave him his first break, if I, if I know my history right.  Wasn’t Rosenblatt —ill or something that he pinch-hitted at that time?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah.  I think he did.  He was, he wanted the people to hear him.  To hear my father.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  So he was a very generous man, Rosenblatt.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Yeah.  He was.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Well, he didn’t need that at the time.  He was so popular.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  Not every star hazzan was ready to promote somebody else, you know.  These sort of jealousies go on.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Oh, I know.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE::  They took a liking to him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2500.0,2525.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  But he, he was above that.  He was great because…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  He was a nice person.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  …he was one of the first hazzans to break the American field of music.  He played in Avon and he played in all the, the goyishe places, with his falsetto.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Yossele.  The Big Hippodrome Theater.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2525.0,2541.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  Yeah.  He played in the Hippodrome; he played everywhere.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And you don’t remember these.  As old as we are, we were never there.  But we know the stories.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Mrs. Rosenblatt was a very dear friend of ours, till her last days.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  Chavele.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2541.0,2552.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH:  Yeah.  She…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  She came out to Lakewood.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  She came to live near us.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  To Jersey.  We’d go every day to her and take her shopping.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Come visit us and have tea.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Were you friendly with Henry?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  We were very close to Henry.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Henry wrote the recitatives for my father.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2552.0,2565.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  He notated them.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Some of them.  When Henry was singing as a young man in the Army, he was in the Army with the, the Army Corps of….\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  This Is the Army.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  This is the Army Corps.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  They made the picture in Los Angeles when we were living there.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah.  So one day, the doorbell rang and we came to the door, Henry was standing there.  In Los Angeles.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  He was in the choir.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  He was in the choir, and he came to visit us. Yes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Well, it’s been wonderful meeting with you and hearing with you and exchanging these stories about your father and your family singing together.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  We didn’t even scratch the surface.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2565.0,2597.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA:  Well, anything more you want to share with us?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  No.  It would take forever.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  We have a little more time.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  No.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  Where is your father buried?  In which — in New Jersey?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  In Freehold.  Yeah.  \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: That’s hard to say.  \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: It’s hard to say.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Anyway, I thank you all for being here, and we enjoyed being with you, and I hope you enjoyed the experience of…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2597.0,2617.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/24222/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE:  It’s always nice…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  …participating in this project.  Thank you very much.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  …to talk about the family.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  I hope your project will be a success.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2617.0,2633.51467"}]},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Interview with Malavsky Sisters [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSEROTA:\u003c/strong\u003e We are now gathered here with three of the Malavsky Sisters, part of the original Malavsky Family Choir. And we’re going to talk about, number one, their father, Hazzan Shmuel Malavsky, and then, we will talk about the formation of the Malavsky Family Choir, and their mark and role in Jewish musical history. How does that sound?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=15.0,40.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH: Fine.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: So what can you tell us about your father, Hazzan Shmuel Malavsky? He was born about 1893, I think?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: He was born in Russia, in Smila. And as a little boy, they took him away from his family, ‘cause he had this wonderful voice.  And they took him all over Russia. He traveled with other cantors and other children. And that was his childhood. And so, when he — they called him “The Boy Wonder.” And that’s when, at 17—at 15, I think it was…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Fifteen","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=40.0,73.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRUTH:\u003c/strong\u003e …his mother died, and his father sent him away to America. And when he came to America, he met with Yossele Rosenblatt. And Yossele Rosenblatt loved him so much that they became fast friends. And he took him into his home—Yossele did—and gave him as, treated him as one of his children. And they went everywhere together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=73.0,96.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE: He was his protégé.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: His protégé.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: They made many records together.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: And that’s how they started.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: And then he accompanied him on the, on some of the records.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eLEVIN: Right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: And it was very…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  They harmonized together, they sounded beautiful.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: And he sounded just like him. Everything he did was, was patterned after Rosenblatt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=96.0,116.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA: When he did take a position as a cantor?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Well, when he came to America, he was so young.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  He had many positions.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Then I think Mr. Rosenblatt, Yossele gave him people to see, and when he saw them, they loved him. They were, he, they made a Shabbos for him. And then other people came to see him. And then, they all started to ask for him. And so, he started to travel, in America. And he went everywhere in America. And he went with Yossele and by himself. And there, everywhere there was a Jewish…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Community.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: …community, that’s where he would stop and sing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=116.0,154.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA: I noted that he made some records early in his career for Columbia, like in the 1918, 1919. And they listed Cantor Samuel Malavsky of Bath Beach.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Yeah. That’s where he was married.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: In Brooklyn.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: That must have been one of his first positions.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: And your mother was from…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE and 3:  Connecticut.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: …Connecticut. And she was from a family of hazzanim, I recall.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE and 3: Yes. Her uncle was a hazzan.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: His name was Hillman?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Hazzan Hillman.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Yes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Moshe was his name?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Samuel Hillman.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Samuel. Samuel Hillman?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Samuel. I think it was Samuel Hillman.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Okay.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: And the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: We just called him Uncle Hillman, so we never even knew what his name was.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: But then they came and lived in Bath Beach. That’s where they were married. The shul in Bath Beach, the people of the, of the shul loved them so much, they made their wedding for them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=154.0,199.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE: And Yossele Rosenblatt and his wife were their, were their interferers, for my mother and my father.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Mrs. Rosenblatt.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: I’m sorry I didn’t bring you the, the wedding gift that they gave my mother and father. The candlesticks, written, inscribed with…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=199.0,216.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE: We should have brought them with us.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: …from Mrs. Rosenblatt.  \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: I forgot.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: You told me a story once that your father and your mother were with the Rosenblatts at Coney Island on a roller coaster.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: My father had a wonderful sense of humor. And he used to take all the hazzanim and the rabbis to Coney Island and put them on the Cyclone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=216.0,234.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE: He wanted to hear their high notes. So he put them on the Cyclone.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And he used to do that. He used to take them everywhere—on picnics, and go up to the mountains, to the Catskills. They did all that stuff. And some of the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: And he was the driver, in his Model-T Ford.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: And they had a good time, when they were young. 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He had…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: He was in Borough Park? Bnei Yehuda I think was the shul.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Borough Park. And my brother was born in Brooklyn.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Right. And where was Goldie born?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Goldie was born in Philadelphia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=305.0,326.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA: And your brother, your eldest brother, where was he born?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH and 1:  New Haven. \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: When they got married, they went back to New Haven, ‘cause that’s where my mother is from. And he got a position there, in the synagogue. And they stayed there for a little while.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: He did her a favor and let her stay there for nine months.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=326.0,340.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH: Then they went to Detroit, where Trudie was born.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: And your youngest brother?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Mort. He was born in…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: In Brooklyn.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: In Brooklyn.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Right near the shul there, where Papa was.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Right near it.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: I see.  And wasn’t your father also for a time a cantor in San Francisco?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Oh, yes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Yes. We all moved to San Francisco when we were children.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=340.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE: Another move.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Yeah. And…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: But we were youngsters, though. We were all here, and all in one place.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Papa went there first. And then he said, “Sell the house and come to San Francisco.” He got a nice position. So we did all that and came by train. And she got lost on the train, Mickey. (indicates MINNIE)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=360.0,376.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE: In Cheyenne, Wyoming. We couldn’t find her.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Cheyenne, Wyoming.  We couldn’t find her. The trains changed. She got lost. We had lots of experiences on the train. And we came to San Francisco. And — Oakland. And then, you had to take a ferry to San Francisco, at that time. And the president of the shul took us, met us, and took us. And we had a beautiful house, and we loved San Francisco.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=376.0,398.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA: Why did you leave?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Well, Papa…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Papa got another…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Trudie and Goldie (indicates TRUDIE) sing by themselves. They were singing as the Marlin Sisters. \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  We were singing ourselves.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: They were singing Hillbillies.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Country music.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Gittele and Goldele.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And Yiddish songs.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Country music.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  And when we got…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=398.0,416.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GILDAR: And country Yiddish?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: We got an offer to do a radio show.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: To do the Keith Circuit. The Keith Circuit.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Oh, the Keith Circuit first.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: And so…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: When did the Marlin Sisters begin?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: They were known as the Webber Sisters at that time.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: We were known as the Webber Sisters in California.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  And then, so Papa and Trudie and Goldie went on a train, all the way cross country, by themselves. 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They didn’t name the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Under what name?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Cavalcade of Stars, it was called.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Oh, on MCA?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: And Harry Hirschfeld…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Yeah?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=441.0,452.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE: …was the emcee. And we were standing in the room, he says, “What’s your name?”  Well, we said we didn’t have a name that we were going to attach to this particular show. This, and Sam Adolf was the conductor, and they had—and Henny Youngman was the comedian, at that time, on the show.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: He just passed away.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: I know.  And everybody…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE and 3: Billboard was outside.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: So he looked outside. And there was a billboard outside that said “Marlin Razor Blades.” So Harry Hirschfeld says, “The Marlin Sisters will now sing.” And that’s…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Was this on MCA, WMCA?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: This was MGM.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: MGM.  Okay.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: And then…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=452.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH: But the, but the story about it, is they went on the train across country. And they went in the wintertime. And all the soldiers were coming home from, you should pardon the expression, the war. And that’s how long ago. so, they, they were on the train, and the soldiers were rowdy. 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So in the middle of the night, he said, “The only thing you can do to keep the boys quiet is to sing.”\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: So we sang all the carols.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: So they sang all the Christmas carols, to try to help the boys, they should quiet down and go to sleep.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: And they did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=501.0,524.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH: And they, as soon as they fall asleep, Papa took the two girls out and was, he was constant.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: In some forsaken town, I still don’t remember the name of it.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Racine, Wisconsin, or something.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Someplace like that.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: In the middle of the night. 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It was about…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  …’50…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: …49, something like that.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: ’50.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: And when did the Malavsky family first start singing together as a family choir?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=541.0,560.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE: Oh, in San Francisco.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: We had one Yontif in San Francisco.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: When?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: When we—I was 12, and she was, she’s younger. And my father had this shul that wanted to hear the girls sing. So we went and we davenned.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: But we used to sing Z’miros every Friday around the table, too. That’s how we started.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: That’s how we started to sing.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Did you harmonize? I guess…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: We always…natural harmonies.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: …improvised harmonies?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: And all the neighbors would be outside listening, with the windows open.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=560.0,586.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE: Natural harmonies. Natural harmonies.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: And your father taught you the melodies?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: The melody and the words.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: We followed him, we harmonized.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: And we learned all our compositions that way, sitting at the table.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: And driving in the car, from one state to another. We had no place to go, so we had to sing. 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Country music.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: That was during the war years.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: And then we stopped at the, remember we stopped at the Grand Ole Opry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=619.0,640.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE: And Pop, Pop was Backstage Pop.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: They all called him “Backstage Pop.”\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Now, I thought that the Malavsky Family Choir, singing together with Hazzan Malavsky, really began right as, as the war was concluding.  And I recall seeing an album that you made for Moe Asch in 1946. And it’s unlike any other album, because, in the picture of the Malavsky family, there are not six children, but only five.  Because your youngest brother didn’t come back from the service yet.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: That’s right. No. My brother was in the service.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Yes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: My older brother was in the Navy, and my younger brother was in the Army.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=640.0,677.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE: And, and he was in Bakersfield, California, so he couldn’t be with us.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: We davenned one Yontif in Brooklyn.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: In Brooklyn.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Where?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Eastern Parkway. We had to rent a theater.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Yeah?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: An Eastern Parkway theater. And we sang there without my brother, Morty. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=677.0,692.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA: So was that the first time that you davenned together as a family since San Francisco?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Yeah. Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Our big rehearsals were in San Francisco for our…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: …for our San Francisco Yontiffs. But so we all knew what we were doing. 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And…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Right now, it’s a whole different world.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: We had a couple of—we made, when we first, all got together in New York, we made 150,000 miles in one car, going from city to city.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: And especially Montreal, Canada.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=707.0,733.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH: Montreal and Schenectady.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: They were our biggest fans.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Albany, and we went to…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Toronto.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  …Buffalo and Toronto. We did theater in Toronto.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: We went from Florida to Winnipeg, Canada in one day.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: And, and…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: It’s 80 degrees to 16 below zero.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR: Mmm!\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: And the car showed it.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: And the car…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: So the first High Holidays in the East was on Eastern Parkway in a theater?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: How did you do?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: We did everything. We were in charge. It was our gig, so to speak. 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And he fell in love with one of my sisters.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Goldie.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: So he was, he was all there the time, and advertising us. And he helped us quite a bit.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: The only problem we had was with the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  The yeshiva bukhers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=763.0,787.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE: …they didn’t want the girls to sing to daven.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: We couldn’t go in the shuls, so we…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Here, we spent our whole life learning how to daven, learning the compositions, learning the Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur, Pesach, and Shabbosim and everything else, and they wouldn’t let us daven. 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We used to fight about that with the other hazzantes, but Goldie was the first.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Who did you fight with?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Well, amongst ourselves.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: I see.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: No, they thought Fraydele Oysher, and they thought that there was…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR: Bas Sheva.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: There was Sheindele…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Sheindele.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Sheindele di Haznte.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  But Goldie was really the first.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=819.0,853.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH: Goldie was really the first, ‘cause she was very little.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eINTERVIEWER 3:  Perele Feig was later, wasn’t she?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: But Goldie sang Habayn Yakele when she was this big.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eINTERVIEWER 3: I remember when you were at the New Irvington in Lakewood.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Oh, my.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eINTERVIEWER 3: That’s a few years, remember?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: That’s why we had to go to hotels.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eINTERVIEWER 3:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: They wouldn’t let us in shuls. What happened to us, we made one big concert—a lot of concerts—but one, this one concert in Eastern Parkway.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: In Crown Heights. Crown Heights.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Eastern Parkway, Crown Heights.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Or was it the Eastern Parkway Jewish Center?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  And the young Hassidim there, in that neighborhood, threw stink bombs in the shul. And we were davenning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=853.0,885.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE: Imagine. By the Torah. On the, on the pulpit.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: And you’re supposed to…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: And, and the stink bombs came up, with smoke. And my mother is standing behind, in the back of the room, and they were coming after—these young Yeshiva bukhers—and they wanted to tear their clothes. But my mother went like this—“Leave them alone. Leave them alone.” And they got out of the shul, and she saved them. And they did such a terrible thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=885.0,912.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA: So I imagine thereafter, you probably sang in synagogues that weren’t Orthodox. Did you sing in shuls?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Well…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: No.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Recall Yaisha Evans (inaudible) They were not allowed to hear a woman sing.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: No, we just went to hotels. We went to the Concord, we went to Grossinger’s.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: So we got out of the shuls, we got out of the temple. And we…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: When were you at Grossinger’s?  On, like, for a concert you were there?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: It was a, Trudie and Goldie used to sing there a lot.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=912.0,929.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE: On the Borscht Circuit.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Yeah?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: And we went on the Borscht Circuit. We went to the Flagler.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: But you didn’t, you didn’t…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: We stayed the Flagler.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: We did Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur and Peshach.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Yes. Flagler, the Nevele.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eINTERVIEWER 3: I did a Rosh Hashanah at the Flagler.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  All those.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: And the Flagler. Yeah. We did all that.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR: Were you educated in day schools, Jewish day schools type…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: No, Papa taught. But we went to cheder after school.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR: But there was no such thing. You didn’t go to a parochial type of school.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: No, no. We were home taught.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Papa taught us everything.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: We were home taught.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eINTERVIEWER 3: Honor of the flag like…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Musically, too, Papa taught us.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  ‘Cause you were on the go so much, how did you have time for your studies?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eINTERVIEWER 3: In Atlantic City…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: We used to get excuses.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=929.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"INTERVIEWER 3: In Atlantic City, in Atlantic City.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: In Atlantic City, too, right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eINTERVIEWER 3: Jack Bar…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Barsky?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eINTERVIEWER 3: Barsky.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: That’s his name.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: His name is Jack Barsky.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: All right. So you sang mostly in hotels. When you were at Grossinger’s, that was for concerts?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Yeah.  They hired us for the weekend, you know. A Saturday night concert. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=960.0,978.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSEROTA:\u003c/strong\u003e Years ago, I spoke to Jack Barris. And he told me, of all of the performers that he worked with in the Jewish field, particularly in the late ‘40s and the ‘50s, there was no performer or group of performers that made an impression on an audience like the Malavskys. What did the Malavsky family sing on a concert?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=978.0,1000.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH: We had a very unique style. We have, because Gitte and Goldie being the Marlin Sisters, we had a two-section concert. We used to open up with Mishos Nissim (?), our favorite song, our lead song.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Liturgicals, we wore our rassis.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: We wore rassis.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: And yarmulkes. And came out to sing a few liturgical songs, we started.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: We sang three, four songs, and Papa spoke…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Told a few, a few stories.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: ‘Cause he was very…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Wonderful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1000.0,1029.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH: …wonderful, with his speaking to the audience. He had a rapport with everybody.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: He was a stand-up hazzan.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: He would tell a little bit about the family.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: He used to tell family things which everyone could relate to. The arguments that we had.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  And they saw young people. We were very, we were, happened to have been a very handsome family. And when we finished our few numbers, then we used to go off. And then, my older brother Al—Avramel— he used to come on and say a couple of jokes. He’s so handsome and tall. So all the women in the audience loved him, and everybody loved him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1029.0,1062.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE: While they took off the robes and the yarmulkes…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: And they had their dresses on.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: …and they had nice dresses on.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: And they came out and did the Marlin Sisters.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: We did our Marlin shtick.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Sang a few numbers.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: And then they came off, and we came back on to finish the program.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: And then the girls had the same dresses that we had. 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Mostly his…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Did he get music from anybody else?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Sometimes we took Yossele Rosenblatt’s Mi Sheberach, and we would sing that. And it was a very difficult piece. Very, very difficult. But we learned it, and we did it. And he would bring memories from, from home that he used to do from his, from his old shtetls where he used to daven. But mostly, he wrote all his own compositions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1103.0,1126.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA: Now, K’vakoras you sing, like, from Yossele. And “We’af hu boyu mis’chaven” on Yom Kippur was Yossele’s.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: That was, that was Mi Shebeirach.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Yeah, “We’af hu.” And we did, he did mostly his own compositions. And if he, if he took something else from somebody else, he would always intermingle with something of his own. With just the familiar refrain of someone else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1126.0,1147.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE: We were so thrilled, because many nights, when we gave concerts, on a Sunday night especially, and we filled up the auditorium. So my father used to say, “I’m glad you came to see us instead of Ed Sullivan.” Because at that time, Ed Sullivan…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eINTERVIEWER 3: Ed Sullivan was really popular.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: …was, and we, it was, thought it would be a little competition. But never. Never. It was always a packed house.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1147.0,1170.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH: Papa used, he, he used to tell everybody, he says, “See? You people came to see a nice concert. You’re warm, in, in the wintry days.” He says, “Now you go home to your nice, warm houses, and we have to get in our car and go traveling back home on the slippery icy ways.”  And that’s what we did.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR: Did you ever sing secular music on the concert?  Besides the Yiddish or hazzanas.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: What kind?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR: Secular music. Did you ever sing O Sole Mio, or…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Oh, no. 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They didn’t even want Goldie and me to sing our shticklach, what, we sang English, a couple of English songs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1196.0,1214.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GILDAR: Because as you know, today, the concert of today is Broadway, opera.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: I know.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR: Everything you can imagine.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: The rabbi and the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: If I was going to a hazzanishe concert, I wouldn’t want to see the opera. I would want to hear hazzanish. I can go to the opera for opera.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR: Right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: What do I have to go hazzanish? I happen to love hazzanish. So I…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: And what kind of work did the Marlin Sisters do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1214.0,1233.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE: Well, we made many, many records.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: We did a radio show.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: We did one record that became very, very big. And we didn’t, we did a demo of this record—“Toolie Oolie Doolie.” Long, long time ago. And…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: And they were paid a little bit—nothing. ‘Cause…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: And we were paid nothing, like for a demo. For a demonstration record. And then, we went away.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Then we went to Florida.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: We went on a concert tour.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Then, all of a sudden, we hear…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1233.0,1253.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE: I’m walking through, through the street there, on Collins Avenue somewhere, and I hear “Toolie Oolie Doolie —the one we made. And they sold that demo, ‘cause it was so good.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: And it sold a million copies.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: And they called us “The Polka Debs.”\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: And the girls didn’t…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: They didn’t use our name. Polka Debs.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: But they didn’t make a penny out of it.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  So you sang under quite a few different names.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: We sang under many different names.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Oh!\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: And we sang with Frank Yankovic, the, the polka king.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Accordion player.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: As the Marlin Sisters.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  As, as Polka Debs.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Polka Debs.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: There were some records at Columbia you made, I think, with Frank Sinatra?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Well, I did that with a different chorus. I was, I, after…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1253.0,1288.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH: See, Trudie, as we got older, so Trudy started to sing with the choir, with the Ray Charles Singers.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: But not the.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Not the—the piano player, the Ray Charles Singers.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: The Ray Charles Chorus.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: And he was the musician behind Perry Como.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: He was the musical director for…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: So Trudy did Perry Como for ten years. She did that show.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: I did just the show. I was in the chorus.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: And we had to make our concerts so she wouldn’t conflict with her dates. And they had the radio program, so we couldn’t conflict with their dates. So wherever we were, the girls had to fly home or go to the radio station.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1288.0,1323.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA: How often were you on the radio?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Every week.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Yeah, every Sunday afternoon.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Perry Como used to tell her, when it came the holidays, “Goodbye, Gittele.” He used to say, “I’ll see…”.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR: He used to sing Kol Nidre, Perry Como.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Oh, yes.  He, he was very cognizant of the religious holidays.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: We were speaking before about the movie you made. Can you tell us about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1323.0,1345.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE: The family?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: With Mr. Seidman.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Yeah, yeah.  We made a movie with the family. That’s when we first came to New York.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  When we were first in New York. So I don’t know who approached us for the movie. And he made arrangements for us to come in. And we made—we were just youngsters at the time. And we made a picture of singing Z’miros…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: (inaudible) What was his name?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: …with the whole family sitting around the table. And today, how poorly that picture was made, it’s still being shown in Miami, and people stand to see that picture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1345.0,1376.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA: So you sing Z’miros there?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE and SISTER #: We sing Z’miros.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Une’saneh Tokef? You sing, “Tsena, Tsena” in Yiddish?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Oh, right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: And your brothers are dressed up in your father’s short-sleeved shirts, holding…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: We were all dressed up as farmers.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Farmers. Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Dressed up.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE:  And we’re country girls.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: That was Israeli. We made like, we call ourselves “The Singers of Israel.”","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1376.0,1396.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE: And then we finally did become the Singers of Israel, in Israel.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: So Papa came to us, and he said, “Children, since New York has, has accepted you, I’m going to Israel, and we have to see how Israel should accept us. Everybody was going back and forth to Israel. So they made, in 1952, they made a trip for us to Israel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1396.0,1418.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE: It was beautiful. A beautiful experience.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: So we worked, we made two, three concerts a day. We worked so hard, we all lost weight. Well, now…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: The audience came in, and we sang, they went out. An audience came in, and we sang, and…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: And, and really…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Two, three concerts a night.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: …they loved us so much.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: And they brought the young children and the children of Israel, the parents could never get them to go anywhere with them. So they were able to bring the children to see young children singing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1418.0,1446.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH: ‘Cause it was the first time they had all generations of Israelites to see us.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Especially Goldie. Goldie was…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: And Goldie, they kept saying, “Goldie Malavsky stay here, and Goldie Meir should go home.”  And…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: They loved her, they fell in love with her.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: …they loved her. They used to follow us around the streets, and “geveret Gittie, geveret Goldie,”—it was just beautiful.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: I understand that your father really did not want to appear anywhere without the family.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: That’s right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: However, he did daven a Shabbos or two in Israel.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Yeah. In the big shul.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: In the big shul, in Tel Aviv.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: In Tel Aviv. They wouldn’t let the girls in.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: They wouldn’t let us be his choir.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: So my brothers went to help, to be near him. Yeah. They went to the big temple in Israel.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Some of the hazzanim, too, from Israel.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: They who know all our, our compositions.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: They all stood with him.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: They all stood with him, and they were his choir.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: And then, the army loved—what was the song that Goldie sang? The, the…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1446.0,1499.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE: Haven Yakkir Li?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: They made the marching song. They used to sing Goldie’s…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Haven Yakkir Li, I think.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Haven Yakkir Li, K’vakoras, one of those.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: One of those.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: And they used to, they made that as their famous marching song. So it was very nice. We had a wonderful time in Israel. But we had a car accident, so we had a, a lot of recuperating to do.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: And we still had an act to do.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: In Israel?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: In Israel, yeah. 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They just paid expenses.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1526.0,1551.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSEROTA:\u003c/strong\u003e When you made your recordings, the first bunch that were made, for Moe Asch, for Disk, I think Saslavsky is the organist. Then you made records for Banner, with Seymour Rechtzeit, and I think Ellstein is on most of them. And then, the ones with the Marlin Sisters and Nat Spencer, otherwise known as Shprin Senna (?), are with Sammy Medoff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1551.0,1516.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE: But we, well, we made the records with Dave Tarras, also.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Dave Tarras. We made a whole album with him. I can’t find where that album is. Someone asked about it.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: But, but we came to New York, though, because we, we went to the theater. Because they didn’t allow us in the shul. So we sang in the Yiddish theater for many years.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: We sang in Clinton Street Theater.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  In Clinton Street Theater. And…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Your father sang with you in the theater?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1516.0,1599.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH: Well, we used to go, you should pardon the expression, on Friday and Saturday afternoon.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: But Papa wouldn’t go on Shabbos.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: So Papa came after Shabbos was over, he used to come for a Saturday night. And we had four shows on Sunday.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: On Sunday.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: And Goldie and I had a show in the morning on MGM radio. So we used to do…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: They used to go crazy for us.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: This was Delancey Street, and Clinton Theater. And around the corner, I used to buy the pickles from the jar. The big barrels. And the sweet potatoes. And go in and see the Yiddish show.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1599.0,1629.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE: We really had to learn how to speak Yiddish.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Right. ‘Cause we saw the Jewish movies.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: We went upstairs in the balcony and sat and ate baked potatoes while we watched all the old Jewish movies. And that’s how we…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: I came, became familiar with all the old Jewish stars and all the movies. And I learned the language.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: And I was dancing with Sam Leder, Sam… ach! In Romania [, Roumania].\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Aaron Lebedoff.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Aaron Lebedeff.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Aaron Lebedeff was with us.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: We were watching him from behind stage, and his partner didn’t show up, so he pulled me on the stage. And I’m dancing with Lebedeff. It was such a beautiful experience.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: We had a lot of good times there. We had a lot of fun in the theater.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1629.0,1666.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE: A lot of fun in the theater.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: And we learned a lot, too, how—stage presence.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Who was Harry Cooper?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: He was an organist, a wonderful organist. Fabulous. He could play anything that we wanted, any key we wanted, and he played like an orchestra. When he got on that organ it was the greatest sound in the world. It sounded like twenty people playing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1666.0,1685.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA: He played for you on a record you made for ABC Records that was produced by Abe Lyman. \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: …that was produced by Abe Lyman.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Oh, my.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: You remember Abe Lyman?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Yeah, I remember the name very well.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: You remember anything about him?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Not really.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Goldie told me once that when you made that record, she recorded Haven Yakkir Li, she was expecting, then.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: At that time. 1957, I think, or ’56. Something like that.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: You have a good memory.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1685.0,1720.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE: Her first daughter.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Her first daughter, her first daughter.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Of all the accompanists that you worked with, who was the most capable?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: I think Jack Barish.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Jack Barrish?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Joe Barsch?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Joe Barsch was good. Joe Barsch.  We used to confuse—we had a wonderful accompanist, Joe Barsch. He also played like an orchestra.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1720.0,1743.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE: We used to always look for an, a pianist that would, that would accompany us and make us, you know, not, not play with one finger, like someone timid.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: The music was kind of hard to read.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: You know, not a timid—Joe, Jack Barish was a wonderful accompanist…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Yes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: …but he was not as gregarious as Joe Barsch was. He was a little timid.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1743.0,1762.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA: How was Medoff? Sammy Medoff.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: He’s great. He was such a musician. Dick Manning was his…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: He wrote music for Loretta Young.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: He wrote music for…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1762.0,1770.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE: He could do anything.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: He used to call me and my sister “A Quelle von Musik] Music.” A Quelle [Kvell]—that means a well of music. Anything he’d play, we would remember and see the words. She had an incredible memory for words.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: What did you think of Ellstein?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: He’s great. He used to accompany Yossele Rosenblatt. He went to Europe with him, didn’t he?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR: As a youngster. He was a young person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1770.0,1792.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE: Yes. Very young.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: He worked with you also?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Yes. I made this record with him, the album that Goldie and I made with Dave Tarras.  They, Abe Ellstein was the pianist.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: The girls had a contract with Columbia Records. Was it Columbia Records?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Oh, yeah. Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1792.0,1811.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH: And all of a sudden, the manager or whatever came over to her…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  Oh. Manny Sacks.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: And he said to them, “We have a young person, a young man here that we want to try to give a…”\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: A break.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: “A break.”\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: And what he was…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: “But we can’t put him in anywhere, we can’t make a record session for him alone. Would you mind if he does one side of your record?”\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: No, no. \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: We were doing “My Happiness.”\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Yes. And he can fill in when the music is playing. Instead of the music, let his voice be in.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: And it says on the record, it says, “The Marlin Sisters with Eddie Fisher.”","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1811.0,1844.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSEROTA:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh! We have here a document that Willie will film. This is the cover of an album. You made records for, as we mentioned before, the family made records for Disk—that’s Moe Asch’s company—and for Banner and for Tikva, with Mr. Alan B. Jacobs. Right? And now, this was a record that came out on Menorah. And it’s got a few numbers. It has one number with your father, “Ribon Ha’Olamim,” that he made many years before. Then he has a few numbers, I think, with the family. And I don’t remember who sang the solo on “Yismach Moshe” and “Av Harachamim.” And then it has a few numbers taken from a live service. Maybe in one of the hotels.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1844.0,1885.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE: Oh, yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: We did that.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  \u003cINAUDIBLE\u003e.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: We did a service.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: I think your brother sent me a tape from a Yom Kippur.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: With the sounds of the audience.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: And your father speaks before the beginning of the Musaf. So he says his daughters sing for Osher Ve Chovot.  When they sing with Ray Charles, they are Osher; when they sing with Malavsky, they are Chovot. Because he didn’t pay, I guess.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Well.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Well, it was worth every minute of it, whatever it was.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Yeah. We had a wonderful time together. Really did.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Monetary value didn’t mean a thing to us.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Yes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: If we sang, if we did a good concert, and we were all good, that meant everything in the world to us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1885.0,1929.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH: When we heard—we had a buzz, a special buzz. When you get that buzz—I mean, not very many people get it. And it meant a lot to us. To, we used to hear it.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA:  When did the family stop singing together?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Well, as soon as we started to get married. When you start to get married, all the in-laws start to, the spouses start to pull away, and pull us away, and, and didn’t like us to travel anymore, and they wanted us to be home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1929.0,1954.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE: My brother got, my brother got married…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  …and his wife didn’t want him to travel. So he couldn’t…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: So it was very difficult.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Which brother? Your elder brother or younger?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH:  Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Older brother.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: My older brother didn’t, they didn’t…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: My younger brother met his wife in the New Irvington Hotel, where we, where we did many, many years of work in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1954.0,1969.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH: That’s why we moved to Lakewood. We moved to Lakewood because the hotel was in Lakewood, and we were living in Brooklyn at the time. And…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: This was going to be a long, long thing. Many, many years.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: We decided to move to Lakewood so we don’t have to travel back and forth. We’ll be right close to the hotel. And that’s why we stayed in Lakewood.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR: You lived in Borough Park, right?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: We used to…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: We lived in Borough Park then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1969.0,1992.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH: When we were young kids, we used to come into a weekend, and they were doing weddings at that time. They had all these buildings with the weddings. They had five floors of weddings. So we used to go in at 8:00 on Shabbos night, as soon as this was oy Shabbos, go in the first floor, and we used to go up five floors and do five ceremonies.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: I used to sing Because…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: She used to sing Because.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: …she was singing, Goldie was singing, getting ready to do the Ve Malle (?)…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=1992.0,2015.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE: And we walked with candles.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: And we were walking down the aisle with the candles.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: We had a unique service that we did.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: And we also had a speech for the rabbi, it should be only 15 minutes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: You know, I imagine there must be some people that have recordings of their wedding ceremonies as sung by the Malavsky Family.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Wouldn’t that be interesting to hear.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2015.0,2030.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE: Probably.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: I wouldn’t be surprised.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: I will have to be on the look-out for that.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Oh, that would be very interesting.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: I’m sure they do. As a matter of fact, I remember one couple especially, several, they had the video.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: They want it fast. They want it done fast.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: They wanted sound and everything\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  Films…films.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: They wanted it forever, for posterity.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: They wanted their weddings done fast, so we made a speech for the rabbi, and…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  We did the whole ceremony like in 17 minutes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2030.0,2049.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GILDAR: Unfortunately, some of those early films were 8-millimeter, and they were silent.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR: So you only had the visual. You had the silent hazzan.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Yeah, but they did have mics and everything there. They had the people working.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR: Well, that would have been recorded, probably, on a separate tape machine for the audio portion.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Maybe on a, yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Right.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Of all the recordings your father made, what was his favorite?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: His favorite? \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Of all the plants that you plant in the garden, which is your favorite?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2049.0,2072.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA: Well, sometimes you like the geranium better than others.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Oh.  He, he, every, every…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: I think his, the RCA Victor record of Shmickel Bichas [“Shomei’a kol bikhyos”], I think, is…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: I think that he did, he does…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Haven Yakkir Li.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: I think “L’kha dodi”—no, that he does “Mizmor Shir le-Yom Ha-Shabbat” like nobody else in the world. I, that’s one of my favorites, if you want to have a favorite.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: His breath control was fantastic.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Of all the selections that the family sings, what’s your favorite?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: That’s very difficult…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2072.0,2104.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH: Tivi’einu (?). We have a Tivi’einu (?)that is unbelievable.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: This is from Slichas [?].\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: But you can make a symphony out of it.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: We used to sing Tiku and Tivi’einu. It was…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: And Tiku Ba’ Chodesh Shofar.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: …I mean, just Papa’s—it was unbelievable.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: And he wrote all of these. That’s why we love it.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: I’d like to make a symphony sometime of them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2104.0,2121.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA: Well, let me ask you, before we finish, would you, do you think we could sing a little something here? And maybe my friend Cantor Gildar could accompany you extemporaneously?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: It’s so difficult.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: We can just fool around a little bit a few minutes. Is that possible?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Do you got a tenor?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: The cantor plays music. How about Tiku Ba’Chodesh Shofar…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: That’s too…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Well, why don’t you sing something, and we’ll, we’ll harmonize, and we’ll…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2121.0,2150.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: They used to compare us to the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR:  Maguire?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: …the people from The Sound of Music. 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And they… And they couldn’t get him out.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Could not put that horse out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2177.0,2209.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRUTH:\u003c/strong\u003e They could not get him out. He tried everything. He had a horse from Arabia, and he had a horse from all over the—every horse was a different country. And he couldn’t get him out. 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They picked up all those, the wagon, and the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: The whole wagon and the horses.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: So he says, “How can that happen?” He said, “Because they’re from all over the world, and they, they’re not together. 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I used to get a buzz that goes right to my head when we hit a certain chord. Because that was the same sound. In fact, when we used to call my mother on the phone, she used to say, “Okay, I give up. 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He never had to fight with us or coax us. It was, we were just there.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: You know, I’d open up the refrigerator and I’d start singing.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: I have a cute, a cute little thing to say. When we were traveling in the car, all of us. So we’re traveling, we come to a viaduct. So when we’re singing, we all stop—you know how the radio goes off on the, under a viaduct?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Now, it doesn’t. It used to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2293.0,2319.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MINNIE: It used to. So we would all be singing, and we’d come to the viaduct, nobody says anything. And we go, and we’re singing again. But they all knew it had to stop when we came under the bridge.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: When Papa conducted us, just one, one flick of his finger, and we knew exactly what he wanted.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: And, and her and I were very high sopranos. And, and we had a signal. If, when we finished a song, if she squeezed my little finger, I hit the high note. And if I went like this to her, she hit the…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: I knew she couldn’t do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2319.0,2347.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH: She ate the pickle. \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: If she had a pickle before or a sweet potato, got stuck in her throat.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: These are little signals that we know what to do.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Hmmm.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: And like Papa. One snap—we knew.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: But I tell you, Goldie, Goldie was really the heart of our choir. She, you could hear her above everybody. She had the greatest alto voice of any young woman. 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Yossele was like his…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: They were his buddies. They were…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: …his buddy. But aside from Yossele, how did he get along with Hirschmann [Mordechai Hershman], Kwartin?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Well, he was always traveling so much.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: He was with us. He gave, he gave a lot up. You see, sometimes, people say that Papa used us…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Gave up a lot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2417.0,2436.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH: …and gave—but I think Papa gave up an awful lot to just sing with his children. He would have been more famous and more well-known…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: In the opera.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: …if he had stayed.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: He would have been in the opera.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: He could have done his (SOUNDS LIKE Von Di Vishimayos and INAUDIBLE).\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: He could have done, he could have been better off in his career without us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2436.0,2454.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUDIE: We stopped him. We stopped him.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: He loved us with our, the way we looked, the way we sounded. It was unique. It was unique. When he came home and told his uncles or his cousins that he’s got a little girl that sings, they thought he was crazy. Then he came back and he says, “I have a second daughter who sings.” They thought he was nuts. \u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR: [INAUDIBLE]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2454.0,2474.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRUTH:\u003c/strong\u003e Then all of a sudden, his older son stepped in. His older, my older brother stayed with him when he grew up as a, you know, with Papa. And he was always with him, davening with him. So he was there with him. But as the girls came. So then my father came back and he said, “You know, I’m, my other young children can sing, too.” So everybody laughed at him. They thought it was a funny thing. How can one family sing like that? But we did. It was just a unique thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2474.0,2500.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GILDAR: Rosenblatt gave him his first break, if I, if I know my history right. Wasn’t Rosenblatt —ill or something that he pinch-hitted at that time?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Yeah. I think he did. He was, he wanted the people to hear him. To hear my father.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR: So he was a very generous man, Rosenblatt.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Yeah. He was.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Well, he didn’t need that at the time. He was so popular.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR: Not every star hazzan was ready to promote somebody else, you know. These sort of jealousies go on.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Oh, I know.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: They took a liking to him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2500.0,2525.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH: But he, he was above that. He was great because…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR: He was a nice person.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: …he was one of the first hazzans to break the American field of music.  He played in Avon and he played in all the, the goyishe places, with his falsetto.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Yossele. The Big Hippodrome Theatre.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2525.0,2541.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH: Yeah. He played in the Hippodrome; he played everywhere.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: And you don’t remember these. As old as we are, we were never there. But we know the stories.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Mrs. Rosenblatt was a very dear friend of ours, till her last days.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR: Taubele.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2541.0,2552.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RUTH: Yeah. She…\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: She came out to Lakewood.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: She came to live near us.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: To Jersey. We’d go every day to her and take her shopping.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Come visit us and have tea.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Were you friendly with Henry?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: We were very close to Henry.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: Yeah.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: Henry wrote the recitatives for my father.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2552.0,2565.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA: He notated them.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Some of them. When Henry was singing as a young man in the Army, he was in the Army with the, the Army Corps of….\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  This Is the Army.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: This is the Army Corps.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: They made the picture in Los Angeles when we were living there.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: Yeah. So one day, the doorbell rang and we came to the door, Henry was standing there. In Los Angeles.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: He was in the choir.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: He was in the choir, and he came to visit us. Yes.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Well, it’s been wonderful meeting with you and hearing with you and exchanging these stories about your father and your family singing together.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: We didn’t even scratch the surface.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2565.0,2597.0"},{"id":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775/transcript/32926/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SEROTA: Well, anything more you want to share with us?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE: No. It would take forever.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: We have a little more time.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eTRUDIE:  No.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eGILDAR: Where is your father buried? In which—in New Jersey?\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: In Freehold. 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Thank you very much.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMINNIE: …to talk about the family.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eRUTH: I hope your project will be a success.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSEROTA: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://milken.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1159/collection_resources/39400/file/110775#t=2617.0,2633.51467"}]}]}]}